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    Re: Jordan pilot hostage Moaz al-Kasasbeh 'burned alive'

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    ISIS is fighting back.
    By setting a prisoner on fire? You call that fighting?

    Brave little soldiers they are...

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    Re: Jordan pilot hostage Moaz al-Kasasbeh 'burned alive'

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    The tragedy of the death of this Jordanian pilot is no greater nor any less then that of the several Americans that have been beheaded or the scores of civilians killed at weddings and funerals by US PD's.
    Perhaps. However if the death is seen as a flashpoint by Jordan which accelerates their people to enter the fight with ISIS, it will be greater, since the beheadings of other countries citizens did not motivate Jordan. Apparently, this Jordanian pilots death has done just that.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Jordan pilot hostage Moaz al-Kasasbeh 'burned alive'

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    Evil triumphs when good men do nothing....and when they do the wrong thing.

    Had Anthony Eden not been around, 6,000,000 people might not have been turned into soap.


    Well like I said in the other thread.....this evil is everybody's problem. For them.....there is NO wrong thing. Which includes the Good using the Bad, or the Ugly!


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    Re: Jordan pilot hostage Moaz al-Kasasbeh 'burned alive'

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    The tragedy of the death of this Jordanian pilot is no greater nor any less then that of the several Americans that have been beheaded or the scores of civilians killed at weddings and funerals by US PD's.
    Especially all those innocent, harmless, all-male weddings that feature, for some reason, large numbers of arms cache's....

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    Re: Jordan pilot hostage Moaz al-Kasasbeh 'burned alive'

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Perhaps. However if the death is seen as a flashpoint by Jordan which accelerates their people to enter the fight with ISIS, it will be greater, since the beheadings of other countries citizens did not motivate Jordan. Apparently, this Jordanian pilots death has done just that.
    Indeed. The more brutal and sadistic ISIS gets in it's actions, the faster and more resolute will it's opposition raise form the ranks of their Muslim brethren.

    At this point, and at this stage of the situation, I'm having less and less compunction about carpet bombing (or dropping) and covering all ISIS held territory with anti-personel bomblets. Say 1 every 10 inches or so. Then just leave it all alone for 6 months to a year.

    The World can't afford to allow the cancer that is ISIS to spread any further.
    Disinformation campaign? The Russian collusion meme pushed by the 'news' media, behaving as a political propaganda organ, hell bent to destroy a legitimately elected president to implement his agenda per the votes of the same electorate. Reference The Big Lie Reference Goebbels

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    Re: Jordan pilot hostage Moaz al-Kasasbeh 'burned alive'

    I just watched the video and it's really fascinating. This isn't some rookie with a GoPro filming his buddies. There was massive editing, directing and producing all the way through. Either these guys planned this whole thing from the very beginning or they want people to believe that they planned it. Furthermore, the level of crazy it takes to come up with this stuff is stunning. For example, among the images presented in the film (that's what it was. It wasn't just a video) is video of a newborn being ventilated (with one of those squeeze bags and a piece to cover your mouth and nose) but superimposed on the video was a HUD display like a jet fighter targeting the infant. Frankly, a lot of what I saw reminded me of some of the crazy stuff North Korea puts out.

    My ultimate take from the video is that ISIS isn't doing this for religious purposes. They are not the mujaheddin they would like people to believe they are and that, perhaps, they believe themselves to be. They are psychopaths. Nothing more than that. They have no concept of God or Freedom or Life. They are the embodiment of evil.

    They are Satan on earth.

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    Re: Jordan pilot hostage Moaz al-Kasasbeh 'burned alive'

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    I just watched the video and it's really fascinating. This isn't some rookie with a GoPro filming his buddies. There was massive editing, directing and producing all the way through. Either these guys planned this whole thing from the very beginning or they want people to believe that they planned it. Furthermore, the level of crazy it takes to come up with this stuff is stunning. For example, among the images presented in the film (that's what it was. It wasn't just a video) is video of a newborn being ventilated (with one of those squeeze bags and a piece to cover your mouth and nose) but superimposed on the video was a HUD display like a jet fighter targeting the infant. Frankly, a lot of what I saw reminded me of some of the crazy stuff North Korea puts out.

    My ultimate take from the video is that ISIS isn't doing this for religious purposes. They are not the mujaheddin they would like people to believe they are and that, perhaps, they believe themselves to be. They are psychopaths. Nothing more than that. They have no concept of God or Freedom or Life. They are the embodiment of evil.

    They are Satan on earth.

    Yet, they were smart enough to plan the release when the King of Jordan was visiting BO in D.C......huh?

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    Re: Jordan pilot hostage Moaz al-Kasasbeh 'burned alive'

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Yet, they were smart enough to plan the release when the King of Jordan was visiting BO in D.C......huh?
    BO actually plays a large role in the first few minutes of the film.

    I wish I understood the language they were speaking. I could pick out a few words but not enough to put the whole thing together. That being said, it's rather obvious that they are not big fans of Obama, Israel or Abdullah II.

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    Re: Jordan pilot hostage Moaz al-Kasasbeh 'burned alive'

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    BO actually plays a large role in the first few minutes of the film.

    I wish I understood the language they were speaking. I could pick out a few words but not enough to put the whole thing together. That being said, it's rather obvious that they are not big fans of Obama, Israel or Abdullah II.

    Yeah, you can see how they like when BO, peeps away at them.

    He doesn't want to let on he knows that they were AQ in Iraq all along.....so lets not mention all they do or overinflate things about them. Their just an organization. So he says.

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    Re: Jordan pilot hostage Moaz al-Kasasbeh 'burned alive'

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Well like I said in the other thread.....this evil is everybody's problem. For them.....there is NO wrong thing. Which includes the Good using the Bad, or the Ugly!



    Ok we agree, there is evil.

    The point is the way it is being fought is not working, blame it on Obama's many failures as things were a **** of a lot moire secure then, but clearly having lost four times as much territory as was sought in the initial invasion is not in the win column; becoming them with beheadings, public executions, crucifixion, boiling in pig oil is not going to be any more effective in stopping them and will likely feed their propaganda campaign [pretty effective in recruiting so far] and enable them to further the meme that the "Great Satan" and freedom is a lie, the war is not about "liberation" at all but continued suppression of a people and its faith.

    Do you think that some of these posts about boiling people in pig oil don't show up in their social media just like we have glimpses of their most radical? Do you not think they use that in recruiting, not just in the ME, but here. We just had one of them go nuts about ant-Islam Canada he shot his way into the Parliament block and killed six people. Much of his angst was created on this very internet.

    There was a time in America when war was a means to peace, Europe was not only liberated but Germany and the rest rebuilt through the Marshal plan, Japan too and both are among America's best friends. War reparations with Vietnam followed the surrender of US forces and they are good friends.

    America has had its hands in the ME since after WWII and been making war off and on for nearly a quarter century and as I write I doubt you have any friends there. I simply no longer believe that war alone will end anything and there are forces who want it that way.
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