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    Re: Jordan pilot hostage Moaz al-Kasasbeh 'burned alive'

    The video has been on constantly here in Turkey and is provokign some interesting reactions. I have to say I have seen these kind of videos before but this one is one of the worst, awful way to go.
    ‘This is not peace, it is an armistice for 20 years.’ (Ferdinand Foch. After the Treaty of Versailles, 1919).

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    Re: Jordan pilot hostage Moaz al-Kasasbeh 'burned alive'

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    The video has been on constantly here in Turkey and is provokign some interesting reactions. I have to say I have seen these kind of videos before but this one is one of the worst, awful way to go.
    Mornin Higgins. It would be nice if the Turks shut down that Snugglers Route. Be even better if the Smugglers and Organized crime members took it upon themselves, To just gangster anything ISIS has and kill them on the spot.

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    Re: Jordan pilot hostage Moaz al-Kasasbeh 'burned alive'

    Quote Originally Posted by stonewall50 View Post
    There is a debate going on in another thread about why Christianity spread. Philosophical section. The reason? Martyrdom. Are you willing to die for something bigger? Because they are. That concept is ingrained in humanity. You see the idea from Japan to the native Americans to Europeans and the Arabs. It isn't unique. Why? What more can you give than your life?

    So let me ask you. If you are being told you will get 72 pristine and beautiful virgins, and enteral glory, salvation, redemption, and your friends and family were "murdered" by this great foreign enemy...doesn't sound so bad to start killing them does it? The more innocents we catch in the crossfire, which is what direct action will do, the more people will hate US and not THEM.

    My idea is to take those who are not players in the game, or may who might chose the wrong team, and give them a little push. Why? That helps us. Not them. We saw Iraq and Afghanistan. Direct action isn't that effective. Isis came right after al Qaeda. Who comes after Isis? This concept that you are promoting is just eternal war. You want to "beat Islam?" You have to change it.
    Right. You fail to understand how Christianity reached the tipping point.

    Why do you feel the need to redefine the destruction of ISIS with beating Islam? And why did you use quote marks as if you were quoting me? What is the rest of the context, assuming you actually believe you are quoting me?

    Why do you prefer defeat to victory? Direct action is wonderfully effective every time it is tried. Of course if The Effeminate One on the golf course prefers to throw away a victory a new enemy may fill the void.

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    Re: Jordan pilot hostage Moaz al-Kasasbeh 'burned alive'

    Quote Originally Posted by DDD View Post
    These "Bastards" do not cause one to fear them, but more to hate them for crimes against humanity.
    Hate=fear

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    Re: Jordan pilot hostage Moaz al-Kasasbeh 'burned alive'

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Mornin Higgins. It would be nice if the Turks shut down that Snugglers Route. Be even better if the Smugglers and Organized crime members took it upon themselves, To just gangster anything ISIS has and kill them on the spot.
    Well in true Turkish fashion you have 50% of the pupulation condeming ISIS and 50% blaming the US for dragging the Arab nations into a war on Islam.
    ‘This is not peace, it is an armistice for 20 years.’ (Ferdinand Foch. After the Treaty of Versailles, 1919).

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    Re: Jordan pilot hostage Moaz al-Kasasbeh 'burned alive'

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    This is true D .....how can they cause fear in those who have no fear, and especially not of any of them.
    I think the only way to cause fear in them is to have the people within Islam band together against them...No outsider, especially a country like ours, whom at the moment doesn't have the stomach to enter, or more importantly win a war with anyone doesn't even enter into their thought process.
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    Re: Jordan pilot hostage Moaz al-Kasasbeh 'burned alive'

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    You continue to confuse strategy with tactics.

    If you think killing them all is too hard then let's just kill as many as we can. Do you routinely shy away from difficult tasks?
    killing all of the people who reside in that region would be the easy route for a superpower
    from your post, i assume that is what you propose
    which tells me i was initially correct in dismissing your approach
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
    once you're over the hill you begin to pick up speed

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    Re: Jordan pilot hostage Moaz al-Kasasbeh 'burned alive'

    Quote Originally Posted by Declan View Post
    Hate=fear
    What? No!

    They belong to different dimensional emotions.
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    Re: Jordan pilot hostage Moaz al-Kasasbeh 'burned alive'

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    killing all of the people who reside in that region would be the easy route for a superpower
    from your post, i assume that is what you propose
    which tells me i was initially correct in dismissing your approach
    Right. You do have the "incorrect" part right.

    How does one go from destroying ISIS by killing all of its members to killing everyone in the region? Is it a lack of imagination or the inability to hold a simple idea in one's mind for longer than two seconds?

    Why not just admit that doing hard right things is distasteful to you?

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    Re: Jordan pilot hostage Moaz al-Kasasbeh 'burned alive'

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    Well in true Turkish fashion you have 50% of the pupulation condeming ISIS and 50% blaming the US for dragging the Arab nations into a war on Islam.
    Yeah I heard that's what the Turks were saying about the US.....but then Sisi of Egypt spoke up and put the blame Right back on those whom it should be. Now after many have figured out where ISIS came from, and who they were and have been all this time.

    One can understand why BO doesn't want to talk about them or Iraq to much. Especially since now it is a fact.....he was always wrong about Iraq and AQ!

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