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    Re: Whistleblowers: US Gave Visas to Suspected Forgers, Fraudsters, Criminals

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    I never thought ya was a hack Monte. Just a bit against the US that's all. Oh and as for Bilbo. An easy one, huh?




    In early 2000, the documents informed America’s top intelligence analysts that al Qaeda had devised a sophisticated plan to hijack a commercial airliner departing Frankfurt International Airport between March and August 2000. The terrorist team was to consist of an Arab, a Pakistani and a Chechen, and their targets were U.S. Airlines, Lufthansa and Air France. The document pieces together an intricate plot directed by a 40-year-old Saudi, Sheik Dzabir, from a prominent family with ties to the House of Saud. It revealed that al Qaeda had actually penetrated the consular section of the German Embassy in Islamabad, Pakistan, relying on a contact referred to as “Mrs. Wagner” to provide European Union visas for use in forged Pakistani passports for the terrorists.

    So, how did the Clinton administration respond? In the incriminating words of the intelligence information report, advanced warning of the plot “was disregarded because nobody believed that Osama bin Laden or the Taliban could carry out such an operation.”.....snip~

    "The Lid": Bill Clinton Ignored Warnings Of Al-Qaeda Airplane Hijack/Attack
    Ok, so I'm against the US for pointing out that both parties have committed us to bad Middle Eastern policy, and you're only against half the US for pointing out that only democratic administrations are guilty of it. Fine, your a bit better than me then.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Whistleblowers: US Gave Visas to Suspected Forgers, Fraudsters, Criminals

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    No it's a strawman for bringing it up when I didn't even mention it in what you quoted from me. Had I brought that issue up, you might have had a point.

    Yes, well... that WAS my point actually.
    Well then it turns out that you and I are on the same page. Disregard my earliest post.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Whistleblowers: US Gave Visas to Suspected Forgers, Fraudsters, Criminals

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Ok, so I'm against the US for pointing out that both parties have committed us to bad Middle Eastern policy, and you're only against half the US for pointing out that only democratic administrations are guilty of it. Fine, your a bit better than me then.
    Well it was coming off that way.....that's all I was saying. Once you were asked about those others and their actions. You say you aren't about giving them any pass either. So I am good with it, there.

    Nah, I'm no better than you Monte. Just another voice out there. Although, sometimes I can create an echo.

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