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    Re: Ukraine run by ‘miserable Jews,’ says rebel chief

    You have to understand that prior to the Holocaust, millions of Jews lived in Ukraine. Many, many contemporary Ukrainian families have both direct and indirect Jewish lineage.


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    Re: Ukraine run by ‘miserable Jews,’ says rebel chief

    Yeah, they say Tymoshenko has a grandmother that is partly Jewish.

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    Re: Ukraine run by ‘miserable Jews,’ says rebel chief

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    So 210,476 people in Ukraine voted for a guy who called for "organised Jewry and criminality in Ukraine."
    The votes he did receive were mostly for his nationalism (Ukrainian language etc.) and anti-Russian views rather than his Antisemitic musings.


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    Re: Ukraine run by ‘miserable Jews,’ says rebel chief

    Quote Originally Posted by Simpleχity View Post
    The votes he did receive were mostly for his nationalism (Ukrainian language etc.) and anti-Russian views rather than his Antisemitic musings.
    That may be so. Do you have some external material to support your claim?

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    Re: Ukraine run by ‘miserable Jews,’ says rebel chief

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    That may be so. Do you have some external material to support your claim?
    Not offhand. Just my personal observations, following Ukraine's media election coverage, and talking with Ukrainians in many regions.


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    Re: Ukraine run by ‘miserable Jews,’ says rebel chief

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    "Miserable representatives (Yats and Poroshenko) of the great Jewish people." Sounds more to me like a
    specific and personal insult to the leaders and not the great Jewish people.
    Yeah, right.

    For somebody purportedly tolerant of Jews, he seems to have an obsession with smoking out real or imaginary jews (neither Yats, nor Poroshenko have ever self identified as Jewish. Furthermore, the Jewish community in Ukraine has confirmed that Yats is not Jewish and that Proshenko is only of partial Jewish acestory).

    In short, his attitude towards Jews sounds amazingly similar to:

    -I am not racist against blacks as auhmm...."people", I just dont like "ns".
    - I presume blacks to be "ns" until proven otherwise.... .

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    Re: Ukraine run by ‘miserable Jews,’ says rebel chief

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    I was not pointing that out. In that particular post, I was educating myself, and perhaps others who are not familiar with the history of Jews in Ukraine.

    Over and above that, it appears that he was actually saying Jews are a great people, but the leaders like Yatsenyuk and Porenshenko, who are indeed Jewish, are sorry. I may not understand you correctly, but if I do, if he was trying to appeal to anti-semitism, why would he refer to Jews as being a great people?

    That title "miserable Jews" is media spin to discredit the separatists.
    Possibly it is to discredit the separatists. But the larger area is much less restrictive in is xenophobe reflexes, than generally is the case in the West. My experience is less robust in this in Ukraine than in the surrounding countries, but racism is an extended problem. Maybe I should not have been quite so flip about it, though.

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    Re: Ukraine run by ‘miserable Jews,’ says rebel chief

    How does this post answers the question: How are Hebrews getting along with claimed Ukrainian Nazies? McCain is Irish!
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    Stats come out and always show life getting better. News makes money in making you think its not.
    The Republic of Dardania is the proper name for: http://www.debatepolitics.com/europe...ification.html

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