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    Re: Rand Paul "Vaccines Can Lead to Profound Mental Disorders"

    Oh FFS, it is **** like this that makes me question anyone up on the hill these days.

    Yes, Vaccines can have a small chance of minor side effects. No, there is little empirical data to suggest that vaccines have some disposition to causing serious side effects or "profound mental disorders." Yes, most infections are more likely than vaccines to ensure lifelong immunity. No, you are not better without vaccines anyway, as in some cases infections lead to secondary complications... some of them are severe (as in more severe than the minuscule chance a vaccine ended up causing a serious side effect.)

    Rand Paul is probably speaking more from a mindset of freedoms to make the choice, but the quote makes it seems like he is talking about some large percentage chance of vaccines leading to "profound mental disorders." As of yet, there is little evidence to back up that case.
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    Re: Rand Paul "Vaccines Can Lead to Profound Mental Disorders"

    Apparently Rand Paul took A LOT of vaccinations.

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    Re: Rand Paul "Vaccines Can Lead to Profound Mental Disorders"

    What about the notion that parents should decide for their children rather than have the State mandate it?
    The State can and usually does have certain rules & regs for things like school that require parents to have their kids vaccinated in order to participate.
    Seems to me that satisfies both parent & State.
    Agreed?
    Something else ... for those who believe the State can mandate vaccinations of all kinds, then they should stop everyone at every border and refuse them entry unless they can show compliance.
    Agreed?

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    Re: Rand Paul "Vaccines Can Lead to Profound Mental Disorders"

    Rand Paul "Vaccines Can Lead to Profound Mental Disorders"
    he's an eye doctor, and his dad practiced medicine. that makes this comment even dumber, if that's possible.

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    Re: Rand Paul "Vaccines Can Lead to Profound Mental Disorders"

    Quote Originally Posted by SlevinKelevra View Post
    Apparently Rand Paul took A LOT of vaccinations.
    I was waiting for that one!! (smile)

    I really do like Rand Paul's speaking out on incarceration rates; but there are so many other things he says that I disagree with, like this one.

    His accreditation wasn't through the normal medical board, right? didn't his dad create a new one or something like that and that's the one he got accredited from?

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    Re: Rand Paul "Vaccines Can Lead to Profound Mental Disorders"

    I am NOT a Rand Paul supporter, so lets get that straight, but I would like to chime in on the efforts of the MSM, including Meghan Kelly, last night on FOX. The truth folks is that although millions have been tested, reviewed, and studied, the fact of the matter is that, scientists really, at the end of the day, don't know for sure how, or why viruses mutate at the molecular level, what damage they do at the molecular level, nor do they really know how the vaccines that are designed to impair the disease, and improve our immune response, affect our healthy cells at the molecular level. With that said, vaccines, generally are very safe when put into numbers and analyzed statistically. Like flying a plane, boat, car, walking. All carry a statistical variance. Another fact is that even if there was some major pandemic virus we've never seen, literally millions of people would be immune to it. Even if it killed off the vast majority of humans, there would be millions of us that would survive.

    Conclusion, vaccines are safe for most of us, but for some of us, they are not; conversely, diseases, and viruses are deadly, or can cause damage to MOST of us, and to some of us they do nothing.

    More research needs to be conducted and we certainly need to continue analysis and studies, but what Rand Paul believes is what all scientists already know, but won't say as to not sound the alarm.

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    Re: Rand Paul "Vaccines Can Lead to Profound Mental Disorders"

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    I am NOT a Rand Paul supporter, so lets get that straight, but I would like to chime in on the efforts of the MSM, including Meghan Kelly, last night on FOX. The truth folks is that although millions have been tested, reviewed, and studied, the fact of the matter is that, scientists really, at the end of the day, don't know for sure how, or why viruses mutate at the molecular level, what damage they do at the molecular level, nor do they really know how the vaccines that are designed to impair the disease, and improve our immune response, affect our healthy cells at the molecular level. With that said, vaccines, generally are very safe when put into numbers and analyzed statistically. Like flying a plane, boat, car, walking. All carry a statistical variance. Another fact is that even if there was some major pandemic virus we've never seen, literally millions of people would be immune to it. Even if it killed off the vast majority of humans, there would be millions of us that would survive.

    Conclusion, vaccines are safe for most of us, but for some of us, they are not; conversely, diseases, and viruses are deadly, or can cause damage to MOST of us, and to some of us they do nothing.

    More research needs to be conducted and we certainly need to continue analysis and studies, but what Rand Paul believes is what all scientists already know, but won't say as to not sound the alarm.

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    at least 0.03% of the population is naturally immune to all unknown and/or potential viral mutations?

    fascinating, I'd like to see the source on that.

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    Re: Rand Paul "Vaccines Can Lead to Profound Mental Disorders"

    Quote Originally Posted by SlevinKelevra View Post
    at least 0.03% of the population is naturally immune to all unknown and/or potential viral mutations?

    fascinating, I'd like to see the source on that.

    There are a small percentage of people that are naturally immune to HIV for instance. There are people that are naturally immune to ANY disease, but not all disease. Surely you know this? Proteins are an amazing little molecule, and we've not even scratched the surface of the surface of how many different combination there are.

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    Re: Rand Paul "Vaccines Can Lead to Profound Mental Disorders"

    Quote Originally Posted by Declan View Post
    I thought he was an optometrist like Assad.
    No he is an ophthalmologist
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    Re: Rand Paul "Vaccines Can Lead to Profound Mental Disorders"

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    The autism link has been debunked for some time.
    Paul just took a big step backward in appealing to his backward base.

    Christie stepped in his own steaming pile on vaccines in the UK, with his aides having to walk his comments back.

    It's now down to Bush and Walker as the only two sane candidates--and they're carefully not talking about vaccines.
    And Romney will support Walker .
    Do you feel the same way about Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama? Both said basically the same thing.

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