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    Re: Obama sending Congress $4T budget replete with new spending, taxes

    Quote Originally Posted by Crovax View Post
    Most of that is entitlement spending, you could argue whether or not that is in the scope of the federal govt but that conversation would be about half a century to late. I favor pragmatic solutions over rhetoric.
    Yes, most of that is entitlement spending which is why it remains on budget being funded by IOU's as trillions have been spent in the past and is gone now. It should be removed from the budget but politicians like the slush fund just like they will love ACA's slush fund as well

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    Re: Obama sending Congress $4T budget replete with new spending, taxes

    Quote Originally Posted by LagerHead View Post
    They vote based on what will buy them the most votes and based on the orders received from the lobbyists and corporations who fill their election coffers. I guess you could have basically been saying the same thing using slightly different wording.
    It is about self preservation and keeping a job for life. Power is created by creating dependence and that is what entitlement spending has done. Term limits will solve much of this

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    Re: Obama sending Congress $4T budget replete with new spending, taxes

    Quote Originally Posted by SlevinKelevra View Post
    Since when?
    Since Nov 2014, when we did a real poll. Also

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    Re: Obama sending Congress $4T budget replete with new spending, taxes

    Quote Originally Posted by Crovax View Post
    You are talking about the symptom not the disease. Sure dropping our 483 billion deficit to 300 billion would help but long term it doesnt fix anything
    It was just a starter number. And since we cant cure the disease, we might as well manage the symptoms.

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    Re: Obama sending Congress $4T budget replete with new spending, taxes

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Imagiine that - yet another Obama "budget" that increases federal spending and taxes.
    I know... shocker right?

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Very good post, thank you. What I wanted to point out is that there are Obama supporters here giving him credit for reducing the deficit and what I pointed out is that he has no interest in reducing the deficit but only spending more money to implement his commitment to transform this country into a European economic model. He is nothing more than a big spending, irresponsible, incompetent individual whose goal is to continue creating dependence and thus a permanent liberal leadership in D.C.
    The sheeple liberals and progressive love him. We should count ourselves lucky that the spending is slowing down a bit and the debt issue will be kicked down the road to hopefully - one day - be addressed by a serious adult. Who that is, I don't know.

    Quote Originally Posted by Crovax View Post
    Our debt/gdp ratio cant hold like this forever and ss, medicare and medicaid will be underfunded in a few years.

    Its a fact that fixes are needed and why would you waste time on a short term fix
    Kick the can down the road mentality. It's near a Washington institution.

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    It was just a starter number. And since we cant cure the disease, we might as well manage the symptoms.
    Agreed... but I can't say I much care for the management methodology or style.
    “I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on what’s being proposed here, he’d agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute.” - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Obama sending Congress $4T budget replete with new spending, taxes

    Quote Originally Posted by LagerHead View Post
    Entitlements are not THE problem. They are A problem, among many.



    I would at least cut every single one of those, and eliminate several.
    for 2014 entitlements cost 2.4 trillion and we had 3.0 trillion in taxes. How can you fund the rest on 600 billion when the defense budget itself is just around 600 billion.

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    Re: Obama sending Congress $4T budget replete with new spending, taxes

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    It was just a starter number. And since we cant cure the disease, we might as well manage the symptoms.
    We can cure it just both sides have vested interests in not doing so.

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    Re: Obama sending Congress $4T budget replete with new spending, taxes

    Quote Originally Posted by Crovax View Post
    We can cure it just both sides have vested interests in not doing so.
    And that is our fault. The politicians just reflect our priorities because that's the way we vote. If you want streamline government, then you need to convince voters that it is the right thing to do.

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    Re: Obama sending Congress $4T budget replete with new spending, taxes

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    It is about self preservation and keeping a job for life. Power is created by creating dependence and that is what entitlement spending has done. Term limits will solve much of this
    Which is why we will never get term limits. Anyone who thinks one of these powermongers is going to vote themselves out of the honey pot is beyond naive.
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    Re: Obama sending Congress $4T budget replete with new spending, taxes

    Quote Originally Posted by Crovax View Post
    for 2014 entitlements cost 2.4 trillion and we had 3.0 trillion in taxes. How can you fund the rest on 600 billion when the defense budget itself is just around 600 billion.
    By using politician math. To them 1-2-3-4-5-6 somehow comes out to a positive number. Of course, we're just not smart enough to understand that.
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