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    Re: Toddler wounds both parents with 1 shot from handgun

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    This is a reflection on stupid PARENTS or stupid GUN OWNERS, not on guns in general.
    Guns with children within the area is truly ignorant, leaving a loaded gun lying around is even stupider, guns, for people who don't follow certain safety rules is a problem.
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    Re: Toddler wounds both parents with 1 shot from handgun

    Quote Originally Posted by Northern Light View Post
    It's not that people were apathetic to the massacre,they thought that the proposed legal reaction was extreme and so they took measures to protect their access to guns. People are capable of caring about more than one thing at a time, you know.
    But when theres more concern for the gun than the victim then you have some pretty serious societal ills need addressing

    Besides, Sandy Hook was not about gun control, it was about the severe degradation of the mental health systems in this country since the late 90's. Most school massacres are done by children who are either on several medications or who are actively withdrawing from them (as in the case of Sandy Hook)... severe mental health issues that are only being addressed with chemicals, not much else.
    The difference being access to firearms. We have mental patients too

    Also keep in mind that the Columbine shooters had other weaponry, including home made explosives. There's no stopping crazy people from killing if they really want to. Even the most mundane objects can be weaponized with creative license.
    Access to AR15s and the like make these people several orders of magnitude more lethal though

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    Re: Toddler wounds both parents with 1 shot from handgun

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Can you explain any major distinctions when it comes to safety?
    Leave the keys to YOUR CAR in the ignition parked on a street sometime, and let us all know how it works out.
    or, better yet,

    leave your loaded gun in your purse lying around with children in a room, turn away, go do something in another room,

    let us know if that works out too.
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    Re: Toddler wounds both parents with 1 shot from handgun

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    It makes ZERO difference in the outcome.

    Frequency speaks for itself, that and body count/injuries. Cars win hands down.
    Most gun fatalities are entirely intentional where most car fatalities are accidents. Its the intent involved with one and not the other that matters
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    Re: Toddler wounds both parents with 1 shot from handgun

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    Leave the keys to YOUR CAR in the ignition parked on a street sometime, and let us all know how it works out.
    or, better yet,

    leave your loaded gun in your purse lying around with children in a room,

    let us know if that works out too.
    So it's about the user, correct? Neither acts on it's own. And both are dangerous if accessible to others (in purse, on street with keys in).

    You didnt make your point. I think you made mine.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
    Quote Originally Posted by applejuicefool View Post
    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Toddler wounds both parents with 1 shot from handgun

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    Most gun fatalities are entirely intentional where most car fatalities are accidents. Its the intent involved with one and not the other
    Intent means nothing to the dead and injured. Changes absolutely nothing.

    We 'accept' cars and their risks...that's about perception and we choose to accept those risks because we 'want our cars.'

    People also form perceptions about guns and choose to accept risks, or not.

    Everyone would like criminals to not have guns to reduce 'that risk.' We all agree on that (I think). However gun laws have little to do with criminals and crime. They affect the law-abiding.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
    Quote Originally Posted by applejuicefool View Post
    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Toddler wounds both parents with 1 shot from handgun

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Well, that does it. Since there are two stupid parents, we must go ahead and disarm everyone else. It's the only logical thing to do.
    They took all the courses and passed. Perhaps the courses are made for idiots to pass?
    Lose the rights to carry weapons for a set period- life would be a reasonable start point.
    Then charging the parents, convicting them, they can serve their sentence while the other is free. Then change positions.
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    Re: Toddler wounds both parents with 1 shot from handgun

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    Someone get this kid an AR-15 for his birthday-- he's a natural born operator.
    Sniper in diapers- 2 hits, 1 round.
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    Re: Toddler wounds both parents with 1 shot from handgun

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Intent means nothing to the dead and injured. Changes absolutely nothing.

    We 'accept' cars and their risks...that's about perception and we choose to accept those risks because we 'want our cars.'
    A car is not designed to kill and accidents are the price paid for their utility. Whereas guns most certainly are .

    People also form perceptions about guns and choose to accept risks, or not.
    Why is adding an additional tens of thousands of intentional gun fatalities to tens of thousands of accidental vehicle fatalities a good thing ?

    Everyone would like criminals to not have guns to reduce 'that risk.' We all agree on that (I think). However gun laws have little to do with criminals and crime. They affect the law-abiding.
    It was doubtless via the law abiding that your criminals acquired their guns in the first place. You are addressing the symptoms and not the cause

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    Re: Toddler wounds both parents with 1 shot from handgun

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    They took all the courses and passed. Perhaps the courses are made for idiots to pass?
    Lose the rights to carry weapons for a set period- life would be a reasonable start point.
    Then charging the parents, convicting them, they can serve their sentence while the other is free. Then change positions.
    They are very selective about it. The same week the cop's kid killed his sister with dad's gun, a couple in Yakima were charged in the death of their 3 yr old after they left him in their car and he found a gun under the seat.

    It took 2 yrs for them to charge the cop...after the public basically demanded it...and he and wife didnt lose their remaining kid at all.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
    Quote Originally Posted by applejuicefool View Post
    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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