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    Re: Toddler wounds both parents with 1 shot from handgun

    Quote Originally Posted by Crosscheck View Post
    No, what it means is that not everybody should own a firearm. How do we manage that, I don't have a clue. We license drivers too but there are number out there driving who definitely should be taking the city bus.
    Cops shouldnt own them either I guess then. Has nothing to do with training...has to do with being idiots. And we dont yet have the ability to assess idiocy and irresponsibility in our society...do we? It would be nice, you know, that whole minorty report thing.

    Cop here left his gun in the glove box and went into a store...left his 2 kids in the car with it. 7 yr old son killed 3 yr old sister with it.

    And he wasnt even charged initially. Nothing! It took public outcry to demand it...and I was one of those people. And 2 yrs later he was tried and there was a hung jury and they chose not to re-try the case.

    He didnt lose his kids, not for a day.

    Edit: oops, sorry, his 'remaining' kid.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Toddler wounds both parents with 1 shot from handgun

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    I thought it was truly sick that the response to the Sandy Hook massacre was to rush out and empty the shelves of AR15's (the weapon used to do the massacre) in case they got banned

    Only in the US I suppose so go figure
    It's not that people were apathetic to the massacre, they thought that the proposed legal reaction was extreme and so they took measures to protect their access to guns. People are capable of caring about more than one thing at a time, you know.

    Besides, Sandy Hook was not about gun control, it was about the severe degradation of the mental health systems in this country since the late 90's. Most school massacres are done by children who are either on several medications or who are actively withdrawing from them (as in the case of Sandy Hook)... severe mental health issues that are only being addressed with chemicals, not much else.

    Also keep in mind that the Columbine shooters had other weaponry, including home made explosives. There's no stopping crazy people from killing if they really want to. Even the most mundane objects can be weaponized with creative license.

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    Re: Toddler wounds both parents with 1 shot from handgun

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    Here we go once again, guns = cars, that didn't take long, only 2 pages in.
    Can you explain any major distinctions when it comes to safety?
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    Re: Toddler wounds both parents with 1 shot from handgun

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    Hmmm.

    Or MAYBE - and I know this might sound kinda crazy- we should allow gun ownership for people only if they undergo safety training and can be considered reasonably competent.
    Every state has different laws regarding guns and some have very few, including no training being required.

    There is no higher incidence for accidents in states without training required.

    That doesnt mean that training isnt a good idea, just that it assumes people dont or wont get it whether required or not.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Toddler wounds both parents with 1 shot from handgun

    Quote Originally Posted by stonewall50 View Post
    Sounds to me like you have plenty of reason to shake in your boots at the mere thought of a firearm. Wouldn't surprise me. PTSD has numerous triggers, and that could be one.
    Having a firearm in the home makes you far less safe. The OP being just another example

    Owning a gun has been linked to higher risks of homicide, suicide, and accidental death by gun.

    For every time a gun is used in self-defense in the home, there are 7 assaults or murders, 11 suicide attempts, and 4 accidents involving guns in or around a home.

    43% of homes with guns and kids have at least one unlocked firearm.

    In one experiment, one third of 8-to-12-year-old boys who found a handgun pulled the trigger.

    In 2011, nearly 10 times more people were shot and killed in arguments than by civilians trying to stop a crime.

    A Philadelphia study found that the odds of an assault victim being shot were 4.5 times greater if he carried a gun. His odds of being killed were 4.2 times greater.

    http://www.motherjones.com/politics/...ths-fact-check

    Theres nothing 'heroic' about putting your family at such a risk

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    Re: Toddler wounds both parents with 1 shot from handgun

    Quote Originally Posted by HenryChinaski View Post
    Owning a gun makes sense and shooting them is fun. However many gun-obsessed take it to the next level, seems like firearms become a sexual thing. Compensating for what's lacking in other areas so to speak.
    LOL Also common with cars.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Toddler wounds both parents with 1 shot from handgun

    While I support the rights of people to own guns, I think that parents need to be very careful with how they behave with it. There is nothing necessarily that the government can or should do in this situation, this is more of a societal issue.
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    Re: Toddler wounds both parents with 1 shot from handgun

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    You'd be surprised how a minimal requirement for competency can dramatically weed out the stupid and lazy.
    Examples? Because again, it doesnt seem to work all that well for driving cars.

    Altho it might because I suppose we dont know the numbers for those that are weeded out? Sad because cars cause a huge number of injuries and deaths being driven by those judged 'competent.'
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Toddler wounds both parents with 1 shot from handgun

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    Toddler wounds both parents with 1 shot from handgun

    Toddler was a good shot, too bad the parents were stupid enough to leave wife's purse with a loaded gun in it for the kid to reach.

    More irresponsibility from gun owners.

    Authorities have taken their child away from them for the time being, but maybe too late.



    you should report on crimes committed by african americans and lament on "more irresonsibility of black people"........ Same logic, bro.
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    Re: Toddler wounds both parents with 1 shot from handgun

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    Guns are weapons solely designed to kill the others are not. Theres a difference
    It makes ZERO difference in the outcome.

    Frequency speaks for itself, that and body count/injuries. Cars win hands down.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
    Quote Originally Posted by applejuicefool View Post
    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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