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    Re: Toddler wounds both parents with 1 shot from handgun

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Well then I guess because of a handful of incidences then we should yank the 310 million plus firearms out of the hands of citizens.(sarcasm)
    They can try.

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    The fact that there are those that get giddy and lust after devices that are designed to take life is bizarre to Me.
    Give a man a fish and he can eat for a day. Teach a man to fish and he can sit in a boat, drinking beer all day while you fool around with his Woman.

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    Re: Toddler wounds both parents with 1 shot from handgun

    Quote Originally Posted by HenryChinaski View Post
    The fact that there are those that get giddy and lust after devices that are designed to take life is bizarre to Me.
    What do you lust after?

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    Re: Toddler wounds both parents with 1 shot from handgun

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    What do you lust after?
    Guitars, vintage 45 RPM Rock n Roll records and vintage barbering items.
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    Re: Toddler wounds both parents with 1 shot from handgun

    Quote Originally Posted by HenryChinaski View Post
    Guitars, vintage 45 RPM Rock n Roll records and vintage barbering items.
    Odd thing to lust after.

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    Re: Toddler wounds both parents with 1 shot from handgun

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    Hmmm.

    Or MAYBE - and I know this might sound kinda crazy- we should allow gun ownership for people only if they undergo safety training and can be considered reasonably competent.
    You're comparing apples and oranges.

    In countries like Canada where people have to take safety courses, there is no tradition of the People using armed militias to keep the Fed in check. So it doesn't matter if their government gets to decide what "competent" means.

    In the U.S., the Second Amendment is founded upon internal defense of the People from the rise of tyranny. Letting the government decide the criteria for who can own guns and who can't creates a slippery slope of restricted access to firearms. In Canada, the average firearms course for first level (shotguns and long rifles) is $700, which means a class division of who can afford to become eligible.

    I'm in favor of restricting firearms from people who are certifiably dangerous or crazy. No law can prevent stupidity. In Canada last year a man had his gun safe open at home to clean some of his arms, and his child went into the bedroom and accidentally shot herself while he was in the next room.

    I enjoy Michael Foucaut's treatise on bio-power, whose premise is partly that in modern times, industrialized governments have become so overly concerned about preservation of life that they aggressively make prevention laws whenever a very small number of people die. As a result, we have a bloated polity and legal system due to reactionaries. We don't need to make new laws every time someone dies. We have a nation of over 330 million people -- how many people die per year due to accidental gun death vs. the total number of gun owners is miniscule.

    Reasonable laws to prevent injury and address liability are important for justice, but we can't prevent all death like the growth model wants us to. It's a law of nature... accidental death happens.

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    Re: Toddler wounds both parents with 1 shot from handgun

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Odd thing to lust after.
    Guitars are designed to create, Firearms are designed to kill. I personally prefer to get giddy over guitars.
    Give a man a fish and he can eat for a day. Teach a man to fish and he can sit in a boat, drinking beer all day while you fool around with his Woman.

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    Re: Toddler wounds both parents with 1 shot from handgun

    Quote Originally Posted by HenryChinaski View Post
    The fact that there are those that get giddy and lust after devices that are designed to take life is bizarre to Me.
    There are gun collectors and then there are merely private citizens who hunt or want self-protection. It's not that difficult to comprehend.

    Go somewhere like Nashville and people love their guitars as much as they love their guns

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    Re: Toddler wounds both parents with 1 shot from handgun

    Quote Originally Posted by HenryChinaski View Post
    Guitars are designed to create, Firearms are designed to kill. I personally prefer to get giddy over guitars.
    Firearms were created to defend and to hunt.

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    Re: Toddler wounds both parents with 1 shot from handgun

    Quote Originally Posted by HenryChinaski View Post
    Guitars are designed to create, Firearms are designed to kill. I personally prefer to get giddy over guitars.
    I thought it was truly sick that the response to the Sandy Hook massacre was to rush out and empty the shelves of AR15's (the weapon used to do the massacre) in case they got banned

    Only in the US I suppose so go figure

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