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    Re: Toddler wounds both parents with 1 shot from handgun

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    And duh, your dont have gun crime because....the UK doesnt have guns.
    Well done ! You see you really can get there when you try

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    Re: Toddler wounds both parents with 1 shot from handgun

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    We've told you this....in the US it is almost totally concentrated in socio-economically challenged areas and you are trying to apply it to the country *overall.*
    Yet you feel the need to arm yourself allegedly against multiple intruders in a non inner city rural area. What a terrifying place you seem to live in. I'd hate to live in a country that is so afraid of itself

    In future if I were you I'd stick to ad hom attacks ignoring or dismissing all contrarian responses and endlessly repeating yourself
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    Re: Toddler wounds both parents with 1 shot from handgun

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    More slicing and dicing and parsing.

    You said mandatory training is not beneficial in terms of reducing accidents. But somehow, magicallly, voluntary training is beneficial.

    Therefore, I think we can say that you think training is not beneficial, since you have this belief that teaching people things only works when its voluntary.

    Its your silly position, not mine.
    Get used to it

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    Re: Toddler wounds both parents with 1 shot from handgun

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    Well done ! You see you really can get there when you try
    And yet you quoted your 'overall crime rates' so you still have crime. Huh. Bummer.

    And again avoid admitting that your crime is concentrated in certain areas, not all areas of the UK. You were asked a direct question and again...had to resort to denials instead of answering.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
    Quote Originally Posted by applejuicefool View Post
    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Toddler wounds both parents with 1 shot from handgun

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    Yet you feel the need to arm yourself allegedly against multiple intruders in a non inner city rural area. What a terrifying place you seem to live in. I'd hate to live in a country that is so afraid of itself

    In future if I were you I'd stick to ad hom attacks ignoring or dismissing all contrarian responses and endlessly repeating yourself
    So you cant answer my question about personal safety in a rural area either? You just say it's unsafe? It would be no different in a city or suburb. The police dont magically appear.....women are attacked in their homes....in the UK and in the US. You didnt offer any suggestions for me to protect myself against multiple attackers in my home at nite....why not?

    Again, you cant answer actual real life questions, all you can do is misinterpret statistics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
    Quote Originally Posted by applejuicefool View Post
    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Toddler wounds both parents with 1 shot from handgun

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    And yet you quoted your 'overall crime rates' so you still have crime. Huh. Bummer.

    And again avoid admitting that your crime is concentrated in certain areas, not all areas of the UK. You were asked a direct question and again...had to resort to denials instead of answering.
    As this thread is about initially about firearms I've cited sources from the US .UK and other international as comparators. If you don't like them thats too bad because what they demonstrate is undeniable

    More guns = More death

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    Re: Toddler wounds both parents with 1 shot from handgun

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    So you cant answer my question about personal safety in a rural area either?
    I live in a rural area too but unlike you I do not live in grossly exaggerated terror because I do

    You just say it's unsafe? It would be no different in a city or suburb.
    But you've repeated ad nauseam throughout this thread that your gun crime is concetrated in deprived inner city areas but now you are saying it isn't ? You can't have it both ways

    The police dont magically appear.....women are attacked in their homes....in the UK and in the US.
    Our women certainly don't indulge the paranoid fears you do, which is odd given all the way through this thread its been claimed the UK is that much more lawless than the US

    You didnt offer any suggestions for me to protect myself against multiple attackers in my home at nite....why not?
    I didn't offer you any suggestions because the exaggerated fear of this happening is I suspect one entirely of your own making

    Again, you cant answer actual real life questions, all you can do is misinterpret statistics.
    No I merely present statistics. I'm more than happy to let you do any subsequent 'misinterpreting' of them a suits your agenda

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    Re: Toddler wounds both parents with 1 shot from handgun

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Please quote that. I never said it or implied. Quote where I did so. You attempt to insult again when the proof you are wrong is bolded in the previous response.
    The fauxrage is palpable.

    I guess you're reversing your position now, and think mandatory training will be helpful in reducing accidents.
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    Re: Toddler wounds both parents with 1 shot from handgun

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    Toddler wounds both parents with 1 shot from handgun


    Toddler was a good shot, too bad the parents were stupid enough to leave wife's purse with a loaded gun in it for the kid to reach.

    More irresponsibility from gun owners.

    Authorities have taken their child away from them for the time being, but maybe too late.

    The U.S. military should hire this toddler to teach marksmanship to the troops.

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    Re: Toddler wounds both parents with 1 shot from handgun

    Clearly nobody wanted to read any of this but it at least has some relevence to the OP

    The United States accounts for nearly 75 percent of all children murdered in the developed world. Children between the ages of 5 and 14 in the United States are 17 times more likely to be murdered by firearms than children in other industrialized nations.

    Children from states where firearms are prevalent suffer from significantly higher rates of homicide, even after accounting for poverty, education, and urbanization.

    A recent meta-analysis revealed that easy access to firearms doubled the risk of homicide and tripled the risk for suicide among all household members. Family violence is also much more likely to be lethal in homes where a firearm is present, placing children especially in danger.

    Crucially, these deaths are not offset by defensive gun use. As one study found, for every time a gun is used legally in self-defense at home, there are “four unintentional shootings, seven criminal assaults or homicides, and 11 attempted or completed suicides.” A study of adolescents in California found that there were 13 times as many threatening as self-defensive uses of guns. Of the defensive encounters, many arose in confrontations that became hostile because of the presence of a firearm.


    In terms of accidental fatalities, American children younger than 15 are nine times more likely to die by a gun accident than those in the rest of the developed world.

    In the developed world, 87 percent of children younger than 14 killed by firearms live in the United States. More American children and teenagers died from gunfire in 2010—a single year—than U.S. troops in Afghanistan since 2001.


    Gun deaths in children: Statistics show firearms endanger kids despite NRA safety programs.

    Not a lot more to add there really

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