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    Re: Toddler wounds both parents with 1 shot from handgun

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    GunPolicy.org is not a blog and does not advocate policy for or against gun ownership. It is an unbiased international research group.
    If that were really so then it would not have posted such a deliberately misleading chart

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    Re: Toddler wounds both parents with 1 shot from handgun

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    If that were really so then it would not have posted such a deliberately misleading chart
    Are you honestly putting Wikipedia over a research institution?

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    Re: Toddler wounds both parents with 1 shot from handgun

    And again...
    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    You cited a gun blogger site which by just stating totals rather too conveniently omitted to inform you that the UK has a population 8 times that of Switzerland

    Do the math by multiplying the Swiss total by 8 and you come up with as near as damn it the same figure. Just over 17 times that of the UK
    Increasing the population increases the total sum of gun related deaths, not the rate of gun related death.

    This is basic math we're reviewing now. You're saying that a car going 10kph for 8 hours is going faster than a car traveling at 10kph for 1 hour because the first car traveled a greater distance. Even when the rates are the same of course the larger population is going to have more total incidents.

    With no insult intended, what level of schooling have you completed?

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    Re: Toddler wounds both parents with 1 shot from handgun

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Are you honestly putting Wikipedia over a research institution?
    Did you even try to do the math using the figures from your own chart vs population ?

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    Re: Toddler wounds both parents with 1 shot from handgun

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    With no insult intended, what level of schooling have you completed?
    Clearly far greater than yours ! Your level of defensive obsession defies belief given even simple math eludes you when it comes to protecting firearms!

    Using your figures Switzerland still has a gun death rate 13 times that of the UK and thats probably cherry picking a good year in order to make it look better
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    Re: Toddler wounds both parents with 1 shot from handgun

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    Clearly far greater than yours!
    That's entirely possible as there are many people in the world with a far superior education than my own, but I notice you aren't answering the question....

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    Re: Toddler wounds both parents with 1 shot from handgun

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    That's entirely possible as there are many people in the world with a far superior education than my own, but I notice you aren't answering the question....
    See my earlier edit

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    Re: Toddler wounds both parents with 1 shot from handgun

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    See my earlier edit
    Your edit doesn't answer the question. Your evasion is answer enough

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    Re: Toddler wounds both parents with 1 shot from handgun

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    Using your figures Switzerland still has a gun death rate 13 times that of the UK and thats probably cherry picking a good year in order to make it look better
    Consider a big part of Switzerland's greater rate includes all military related activities as well because Switzerland does not have a standing Army. I think you forgot to include gun deaths among the British Army in your figures. Please take a moment to include those numbers on the UK side and compare the UK to Switzerland again.

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    Re: Toddler wounds both parents with 1 shot from handgun

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Consider a big part of Switzerland's greater rate includes all military related activities as well because Switzerland does not have a standing Army. I think you forgot to include gun deaths among the British Army in your figures. Please take a moment to include those numbers on the UK side and compare the UK to Switzerland again.
    Their tiny military must be darned careless then given its been at peace for 300 years ! .Please prove that this is indeed so ?

    To the best of my knowledge the only deaths from gunfire in the British army last year were in conflicts abroad and are hardly relevant to the discussion. Any such accidental deaths are rare and always make the headlines here when they happen
    Last edited by flogger; 02-06-15 at 08:38 AM.

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