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    Re: Toddler wounds both parents with 1 shot from handgun

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
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    I merely asked you why putting your children at an additional and unnecessary risk was acceptable to you ?
    The only children at risk are the ones being raised by morons. My kids won't be at risk. I wasn't at risk. Seriously. Do you not understand how guns work?
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    Re: Toddler wounds both parents with 1 shot from handgun

    Quote Originally Posted by stonewall50 View Post
    Are saying a gun is as dangerous as a nuclear weapon? Weren't you in a military or something?
    Just making the point that all weapons are inanimate objects minus humans. Its the inherent lethality when combined that matters, which is why I earlier posed the question 'who would need or want an AR15 or AK47 in their lives ? I used to use the 7.62mm Belgian FN SLR in my service and never once did it cross my mind that having such a weapon anywhere near my family would be a good idea. Having seen what it could do quite the opposite in fact

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    Re: Toddler wounds both parents with 1 shot from handgun

    Quote Originally Posted by stonewall50 View Post
    The only children at risk are the ones being raised by morons. My kids won't be at risk. I wasn't at risk. Seriously. Do you not understand how guns work?
    I don't doubt that 99% of parents of children killed or injured by firearms kept in the home have said the very same thing

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    Re: Toddler wounds both parents with 1 shot from handgun

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    Just making the point that all weapons are inanimate objects minus humans. Its the inherent lethality when combined that matters, which is why I earlier posed the question '
    You realize without proper care a Nuke could cause all kinds of hazards if left alone? Guns? No. Take the bullets out and it is a hunk of metal. Nukes are radioactive.

    who would need or want an AR15 or AK47 in their lives ?
    Nowhere in the constitution does it say "'need." We have an amendment there to keep people from trampling our rights.

    Additionally an ar15 is an excellent hunting platform. Accurate. Easy to modify. Easy to change caliber. The .223 is good for small game, pests, and predators (even the 2 legged kind).

    Oh. And did you know that "assault weapons" are made up less for murders than CLUBS. Hm?

    I used to use the 7.62mm Belgian FN SLR in my service and never once did it cross my mind that having such a weapon anywhere near my family would be a good idea. Having seen what it could do quite the opposite in fact
    Which explains your fear.

    Btw I hope you don't own a pool. Man you might as well give your family a bomb and the detonator.
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    Re: Toddler wounds both parents with 1 shot from handgun

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    I don't doubt that 99% of parents of children killed or injured by firearms kept in the home have said the very same thing
    And I don't doubt they are morons. I'm not. Let's see what the rules are.

    1) Lock up your gun.
    2) lock up your ammo somewhere else
    3) explain to your kid that it is not a toy.
    4) explain it again.
    5) satisfy the kids curiosity so they don't want to play with it.
    6) teach them to never point it at someone.

    These 6 rules are so extraordinarily simple. That is probably why considerably less than .025% of gun owners have dealt with a child being injured or killed. Do you know about %? Statistics?

    Oh and I will mention that I used the lowball estimate of gun owners (40 mil) and the highest kid death by firearms...which includes murders and suicides. Maybe 10K.

    .025% isn't exactly a lot. More kids are way more likely to die from motor vehicles or pools.
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    Re: Toddler wounds both parents with 1 shot from handgun

    Quote Originally Posted by stonewall50 View Post
    Btw I hope you don't own a pool. Man you might as well give your family a bomb and the detonator.
    A pool is not a weapon there is a huge difference between an accident and an intent to kill. Casual access to lethal firearms greatly facilitate such intent

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    Re: Toddler wounds both parents with 1 shot from handgun

    Quote Originally Posted by stonewall50 View Post
    And I don't doubt they are morons.
    Well I don't doubt that many must be frankly given the facts

    A study of firearm storage patterns in U.S. homes found that “of the homes with children and firearms, 55% were reported to have 1 or more firearms in an unlocked place,” and 43% reported keeping guns without a trigger lock in an unlocked place A 2005 study on adult firearm storage practices in U.S. homes found that over 1.69 million children and youth under age 18 are living in homes with loaded and unlocked firearms In addition, 73% of children under age 10 living in homes with guns reported knowing the location of their parents’ firearms

    Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence
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    Re: Toddler wounds both parents with 1 shot from handgun

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    Guns are weapons -- period. Someone is going to get hurt. Happens each and every day. The love of guns has consequences.
    Cars are weapons too, ask any CONservative or gun hugger or NRA leg humper.

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    Re: Toddler wounds both parents with 1 shot from handgun

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    And the point you chose to miss is that all weapons are inanimate objects. Its the potential lethality of the weapon once in human hands that matters
    Exactly the same with cars. And the accidental (lethal) misuse of cars is much much higher.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Toddler wounds both parents with 1 shot from handgun

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Exactly the same with cars. And the accidental (lethal) misuse of cars is much much higher.
    Its nothing like 'exactly the same' How many people deliberately murder using cars !

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