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    Re: Toddler wounds both parents with 1 shot from handgun

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    Which had nothing to do with my point and refuted nothing I said. If you want to be dishonest about my position, I'm going to confront you until you get it right. If you're just here to soapbox, don't quote other people's posts.
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    If that's soapboxing, I'm sorry I involved you and your reference to bad drivers and cast a pall of shame upon you and your descendants who may be reading this centuries into the future.
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    Re: Toddler wounds both parents with 1 shot from handgun

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    These are national averages they make no distinction between your states and cities some of which are doubtless a lot worse than the stats presented here
    Exactly our point. There are cities, neighborhoods, and socio-economics that affect the numbers and those areas are very localized. Not spread out across the country evenly. That's been explained to you now a few times. Do you understand? I realize not everyone comprehends the size of the US but you did mention that you had traveled.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Toddler wounds both parents with 1 shot from handgun

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    Of course it does

    Such attempted hairsplitting doesn't trump the simple math of this
    Already refuted.


    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    I'm just curious about why you would unnecessarily choose to put yourself and your family at a considerable additional (and yet wholly avoidable) risk by keeping a firearm near them. I'm assuming you are a gun owner so why would anyone choose to have lets say an AR 15 or an AK 47 in their lives ?

    Why do you believe that it's unnecessary? Is home insurance unnecessary? Are fire drills unnecessary? None of those things, including guns, are necessary until you need them. From that need comes people training to be capable of using them to do so and an interest that leads to recreational use. All things greatly valued in a society that values personal liberty.

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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    Re: Toddler wounds both parents with 1 shot from handgun

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    These are national averages they make no distinction between your states and cities some of which are doubtless a lot worse than the stats presented here
    That's exactly what I said. Some really bad localities with similar stats and problems are the primary drivers. Ergo gun laws not the problem
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    Re: Toddler wounds both parents with 1 shot from handgun

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Exactly our point. There are cities, neighborhoods, and socio-economics that affect the numbers and those areas are very localized. Not spread out across the country evenly. That's been explained to you now a few times. Do you understand?
    Stats will vary across the UK too so what ? Even taking Europe as a whole your figures are pretty dreadful

    I realize not everyone comprehends the size of the US but you did mention that you had traveled.
    To 48 countries so far and including many visits to the US

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    Re: Toddler wounds both parents with 1 shot from handgun

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    Stats will vary across the UK too so what ? Even taking Europe as a whole your figures are pretty dreadful
    You continue to make our point. You dont get it at all. Most of the US is just as safe as most of Europe. I cant write to a lower level to explain it better. I'm not a grammar school teacher.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Toddler wounds both parents with 1 shot from handgun

    Quote Originally Posted by EMNofSeattle View Post
    That's exactly what I said. Some really bad localities with similar stats and problems are the primary drivers. Ergo gun laws not the problem
    Gun law is not a problem ? With 30,000 deaths per annum. In just two years your death toll exceeds the entire 10 year toll of US involvement in Vietnam ? To put this into some kind of context we had a whole 39 in 2013

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    Re: Toddler wounds both parents with 1 shot from handgun

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    Gun law is not a problem with 30,000 deaths per annum. In just two years your death toll exceeds the entire 10 year toll of US involvement in Vietnam. To put this into some kind of context we had a whole 39 in 2013
    And you have to live in the UK to have that. The great majority of those deaths are criminals and gang members. Do you understand that as poorly as you understand how localization of the gun incidents matters?

    Anyway, obviously we dont care for the trade-offs.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Toddler wounds both parents with 1 shot from handgun

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    You continue to make our point. You dont get it at all. Most of the US is just as safe as most of Europe. I cant write to a lower level to explain it better. I'm not a grammar school teacher.
    And I can't write to a lower level because I'm not a maths teacher

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    Re: Toddler wounds both parents with 1 shot from handgun

    Quote Originally Posted by flogger View Post
    And I can't write to a lower level because I'm not a maths teacher
    You are definitely not a math teacher, your grasp of numbers and statistics and ratios is sorely lacking.

    We understand what you are writing. You are writing that you dont actually understand the meaning of something you are posting. And linking to.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
    Quote Originally Posted by applejuicefool View Post
    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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