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Gov. Scott Walker: Don't Rule Out 'Boots on the Ground' Against ISIS

Caine said:
The more of them we kill, the more of them we make.

Our prolonged presence and meddling in the affairs of the Middle East is what has grown this problem.
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Ding ding ding! we have a winner folks!
 
ObamacareFail said:
It's called reality. We either have serious threat to our national security or not. If we do.....we should do whatever it takes to handle it....even if it means boots on the ground. As for sending our youth off to battle....that pretty much how it's always been done...unless you think it's viable to send middle aged and senior citizens to the front lines. The use of the term "chicken hawk" is small minded and cowardly.
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I would disagree that what is going on in the Middle East is a serious threat to our National security.

Anyone at any time can conspire to commit a terrorist act upon U.S. Soil....... claiming that they are more likely to do it because xyz does not justify our constant involvement in Middle East affairs..... involvement that has allowed us to turn others over to their cause in the first place.
 
eohrnberger said:
Yes, ISIS started in Syria, and spilled over, taking huge tracts of land. Had US troop presence been maintained, especially FACs, my thinking is that ISIS wouldn't have been take to take and hold that land, cutting off their supply of militants as well as the US equipment the Iraqi's ran away from.

There's a difference between a stable and reenforced with US troops Iraq and one that's been abandoned due to lack of SoF.
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There was never a stable Iraq after we ousted Saddam and there never could be as long as we stayed there and played nursemaid. The same is true today. Stability of a nation comes from within.
 
ObamacareFail said:
So....can I assume that you are against everything the US Constitution does not require? Let's eliminate the massive entitlement system. Let's eliminate obamacare.
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Sounds good to me, as long as we can eliminate U.S. meddling in foreign affairs.
 
US Conservative said:
Iraq should pay us for forcing ISIS into Syria. After ISIS and Assad have fought it out, we should destroy whomever wins there with a friendly govt. :cool:
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And why would we destroy Assad's government?

Again... more U.S. Meddling in foreign affairs.
 
iguanaman said:
You got one thing right. Republicans are better at getting us into endless wars that make our country less safe.
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any links to this impossibility?
 
iguanaman said:
There was never a stable Iraq after we ousted Saddam and there never could be as long as we stayed there and played nursemaid. The same is true today. Stability of a nation comes from within.
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True. But stability needs some help to get started and take a strong root. It would appears to me that the US forces there would have provided this needed support. I think support was withdrawn too early, and the patient is in jeopardy now, and may not have been, had the support been maintained. But we'll never know.
 
Travis007 said:
you forget Clintons started the Iraq war and trumped it up to cover Cigargate..
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Greetings, Travis007. :2wave:

Yep, that aspirin factory was a real threat to the world and just had to be bombed! Can you imagine all those people standing around saying "WTH is going on now?" :mrgreen:
 
eohrnberger said:
True. But stability needs some help to get started and take a strong root. It would appears to me that the US forces there would have provided this needed support. I think support was withdrawn too early, and the patient is in jeopardy now, and may not have been, had the support been maintained. But we'll never know.
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2003 to 2011 wasn't long enough?

Im not interested in a "forever war" in a country we had no business invading in the first place.

And I say this as an Iraq war veteran.
 
iguanaman said:
You got one thing right. Republicans are better at getting us into endless wars that make our country less safe.
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So how did a "Republican War" make us less safe? Are we less safe now than on 9/10/2001?

The 9/11 attackers came the US and learned to fly commercial airliners under the Clinton presidency... is that the fault of Republicans?
 
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Travis007 said:
you forget Clintons started the Iraq war and trumped it up to cover Cigargate..
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And yet that doesn't matter or excuse anyones actions.

Its just your little way to creating this partisan blamery deflection.
 
Caine said:
2003 to 2011 wasn't long enough?

Im not interested in a "forever war" in a country we had no business invading in the first place.

And I say this as an Iraq war veteran.
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Thank you for your service and your sanity.
 
Jetboogieman said:
Must be really heroic for you to offer up other peoples sons and daughters in some pathetic attempt at showing off your Conservative Bravado.
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Well when you are in management. That's how it works. How does this effect you?
 
Caine said:
2003 to 2011 wasn't long enough?

Im not interested in a "forever war" in a country we had no business invading in the first place.

And I say this as an Iraq war veteran.
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As a veteran, I thank you for your service.

It's not the time span, it's the state of the Iraqi government and it's security forces. Clearly the forces weren't ready to take on the role they were needed for. The engagement I'm referring too, they dropped their weapons and ran away, and also clearly, the government wasn't ready, given that Maliki (sp?) was forced from office as he was. Neither is indicative of a functioning government or functioning military.
 
polgara said:
Greetings, Travis007. :2wave:

Yep, that aspirin factory was a real threat to the world and just had to be bombed! Can you imagine all those people standing around saying "WTH is going on now?" :mrgreen:
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Hi Sweet Polgara...:2wave:

Yes those trumped up "no fly zone" violations that Clinton used to start a full scale war after he messed up the Blue Dress..
 
jmotivator said:
So how did a "Republican War" make us less safe? Are we less safe now than on 9/10/2001?

The 9/11 attackers came the US and learned to fly commercial airliners under the Clinton presidency... is that the fault of Republicans?
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We won't mention that the FBI caught one of those hijackers 2 weeks before 911 and the Bush Whitehouse did nothing to warn the airlines or even check the other flight schools. The reason given was Bush believed it was "just" a hoax created by Saddam Hussein. I fear the next attack will come if another Republican gets into the Whitehouse. It will give them another "excuse" to go to war.
 
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iguanaman said:
We won't mention that the FBI caught one of those hijackers 2 weeks before 911 and the Bush Whitehouse did nothing to warn the airlines or even check the other flight schools. The reason given was Bush believed it was "just" a hoax created by Saddam Hussein. I fear the next attack will come if another Republican gets into the Whitehouse.
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Oh. My. God.

Bush.

Bush was single handedly responsible for 911, the crash, Katrina and the Japanese Tsunami.

He is the single most powerful president to have ever held office, as his polices and practices continue to plague a nation seven years later, are responsible for every calamity and nose bleed in congress despite the best efforts of the most perfect, error free, president in the history of the United States...so powerful that seven years later even the president is still bleating about his "enemies"

Your enemy isn't terrorists, nor Putin or even Cuba, that great communist satan threatening the American way of life...no! Your enemy is this all powerful, even seven years out of office who cause every ****ing problem in America today.

Please, while we're wallowing in leftist/socialist revisionist history can we have a we small look at Clinton's record with Osama bin Laden and Al-Qaeda. I know it was only the puny Clinton who compared to Obama was a failure on all fronts, but how well did he deal with them?

Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain, it is only George Bush still secretly running the country...Obama only thinks he has control
 
iguanaman said:
We won't mention that the FBI caught one of those hijackers 2 weeks before 911 and the Bush Whitehouse did nothing to warn the airlines or even check the other flight schools. The reason given was Bush believed it was "just" a hoax created by Saddam Hussein. I fear the next attack will come if another Republican gets into the Whitehouse.
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This is patently false. Moussaoui was picked up for immigration violations by the FBI and the agents requested that his laptop be searched on a hunch by the investigating agents. What kept that from happening was FISA restrictions. The FBI agent therefor never had more than a hunch and at the time Moussaoui was nothing more than an illegal alien with an interest in flight simulators.

What did you want the FBI to do on a hunch? Round up all of his acquaintances and throw them in prison?
 
SouthernDemocrat said:
That group started in Jordan. It never became a problem for us until 2004, after we went into Iraq when they started to become part of the insurgency.
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It was founded by a Jordanian, true, but it still began in Iraq.
 
Fearandloathing said:
Oh. My. God.

Bush.

Bush was single handedly responsible for 911, the crash, Katrina and the Japanese Tsunami.

He is the single most powerful president to have ever held office, as his polices and practices continue to plague a nation seven years later, are responsible for every calamity and nose bleed in congress despite the best efforts of the most perfect, error free, president in the history of the United States...so powerful that seven years later even the president is still bleating about his "enemies"

Your enemy isn't terrorists, nor Putin or even Cuba, that great communist satan threatening the American way of life...no! Your enemy is this all powerful, even seven years out of office who cause every ****ing problem in America today.

Please, while we're wallowing in leftist/socialist revisionist history can we have a we small look at Clinton's record with Osama bin Laden and Al-Qaeda. I know it was only the puny Clinton who compared to Obama was a failure on all fronts, but how well did he deal with them?

Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain, it is only George Bush still secretly running the country...Obama only thinks he has control
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He's a liberal. He believes that if it were Obama he would have been taking out potential hijackers with flying side kicks and nun chucks before the sunset on the day Moussaoui was arrested.
 
iguanaman said:
ISIS had its start in Syria, how would us staying in Iraq prevented that? We were told that Bush left a stable Iraq under Maliki are you saying he lied?
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Bush didn't leave Iraq, Obama did. Are you saying Obama left an unstable Iraq?
 
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