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    Re: Constitutional requirement to defend the nation

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    So....can I assume that you are against everything the US Constitution does not require? Let's eliminate the massive entitlement system. Let's eliminate obamacare.
    Isn't defense of the states the only Constitutional requirement? Article 1 Section 8 and Article 2 provide the mandate for the federal government to protect the states.

    I suppose we should not have fought in WWII or WwII until we were forced to fight without allies or access to the nation's terrain of our enemies. I accept wide latitude for the federal government so spy externally, and to a limited degree internally. I also accept wide latitude for offensive and defensive engagements the world over if they advance a strategy to defeat this nation's enemies before they are capable of invasion or direct attack against us.

    Not everyone is so thoughtful. Some wish to turn the Constitution into a suicide pact.
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    Re: Gov. Scott Walker: Don't Rule Out 'Boots on the Ground' Against ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by Chainsaw View Post
    That was exactly Clintons attitude.
    Threats to whom?










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    Re: Gov. Scott Walker: Don't Rule Out 'Boots on the Ground' Against ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by Crosscheck View Post
    Isn't there a Veterans Tourette Help Group ?

    Some vets here think they are the only ones who have ever served. There are tons of vets everywhere. I have vets in my workplace male and female. I have neighbors who are vets. I have son, dad, uncles ,great grandfathers, cousins and even myself. My two grandfathers weren't vets so I guess they count less.

    Being a vet doesn't make you that unique.
    Our experience makes us unique. Unique in the fact that we understand that when we took the oath and put in the uniform, that we accept the reality that one day we may be ordered to put ourselves in harm's way and at that moment the politics don't mean jack ****. We also understand that if we don't do it, someone else will have to, because the events will take place with us, or without us and that indecision and inaction will cost more lives than it will save.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Gov. Scott Walker: Don't Rule Out 'Boots on the Ground' Against ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by a351 View Post
    The regions democracies, religious minorities, women and any journalists that get in their way. They've also sworn an oath to harm US interests and persons when capable. Playing dumb isn't valid foreign policy.
    Regional democracies? Give me a list. Why are american men and women defending all the above in the region? I haven't seen those reasons in a declaration of war.

    Playing dumb how?










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    Re: Gov. Scott Walker: Don't Rule Out 'Boots on the Ground' Against ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by imagep View Post
    Well then, I guess we should also declare war against a waffle house in NC, a Miami based bail bondsmen school, the cities of Denver and Scranton, the US Army, upstate New York, the state of Tennessee, etc.

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    Cool story bro.

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    Re: Gov. Scott Walker: Don't Rule Out 'Boots on the Ground' Against ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Our experience makes us unique. Unique in the fact that we understand that when we took the oath and put in the uniform, that we accept the reality that one day we may be ordered to put ourselves in harm's way and at that moment the politics don't mean jack ****. We also understand that if we don't do it, someone else will have to, because the events will take place with us, or without us and that indecision and inaction will cost more lives than it will save.
    I'm glad you feel really special and "unique".
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    ...I'm not interested in debating someone who is trolling for an argument....
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    I see a big problem with the idea that whatever the majority wants is OK.

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    Re: Gov. Scott Walker: Don't Rule Out 'Boots on the Ground' Against ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by imagep View Post
    I'm glad you feel really special and "unique".
    We're not cowards who hide behind indecision and among Liberals, that makes us very unique.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Gov. Scott Walker: Don't Rule Out 'Boots on the Ground' Against ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    We're not cowards who hide behind indecision and among Liberals, that makes us very unique.
    So no liberals ever served in the military?
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    ...I'm not interested in debating someone who is trolling for an argument....
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    I see a big problem with the idea that whatever the majority wants is OK.

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    Re: Gov. Scott Walker: Don't Rule Out 'Boots on the Ground' Against ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by a351 View Post
    Israel, Turkey, Lebanon. Not to mention the havoc wreaked upon an interim democracy in Iraq.
    This is not a good time for me, tomorrow is better, but Israel is not a democracy.

    More tomorrow.










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    Re: Gov. Scott Walker: Don't Rule Out 'Boots on the Ground' Against ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by imagep View Post
    And we weren't attacked by Iraq when Clinton was POTUS. Of course we weren't attacked or even provoked by Iraq when Bush was POTUS either, yet he decided to go to war against Iraq.
    Neither of those statements are true.

    We were attacked thousands of times from 1992 to 2003 while enforcing the no-fly zones set up in Northern Iraq to protect the Kurds and in Southern Iraq to protect the Shia' minority. A few spans of years saw daily attacks on our forces.
    "Political speech and writing are largely the defense of the indefensible. . . . Thus political language has to consist largely of euphemism, question-begging and sheer cloudy vagueness."
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