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    Re: Gov. Scott Walker: Don't Rule Out 'Boots on the Ground' Against ISIS

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    A great (perhaps the greatest) Western scholar of Islam disagrees with you, and wrote this in 1990.

    The Roots of Muslim Rage

    pages.pomona.edu/.../Lewis_roots_of_muslim_rage.pdf


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    Reproduced with permission of the copyright owner. Further reproduction prohibited without permission. The Roots of Muslim Rage. Lewis, Bernard. The Atlantic ...


    How silly of you Jack to advance facts here.

    Of course its all about the US...that's why 911 happened on the anniversary of a British law establishing the state of Israel long before the US had any interests there. Of course its about the US, there is no rage over what the west did there before and during the second world war, there is no western oriented hate over the Italian or Nazi occupations...just America......
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    Re: Gov. Scott Walker: Don't Rule Out 'Boots on the Ground' Against ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    No. I disagree. Syria is worse because we stayed out. Iraq was well on its way to a decent future before we abandoned our responsibility.
    Syria is Syria's business.

    They have their own government and their own military forces.... and we needed to butt out.

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    Re: Gov. Scott Walker: Don't Rule Out 'Boots on the Ground' Against ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    If only our nation had had a leader...The Effeminate One on the golf course was never that man. He was a community organizer, an agitator.
    Right. A "leader" like GW Bush who led 4000 Americans to their untimely and unnecessary deaths in Iraq and stirred up a hornets nest in the entire ME. Bring it on my ass. What a loser.

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    Re: Gov. Scott Walker: Don't Rule Out 'Boots on the Ground' Against ISIS

    "The boots were just fine. The rules of engagement were not. If we want to win wars the enemy must be killed in gruesome ways, his places burned and laid desolate. We should try to actually win the next war."
    Quote Originally Posted by RDS View Post
    Exactly, like what ISIS did. Burning the Jordanian pilot alive.
    Really? Once an enemy unlawful enemy combatant is captured they need to face interrogation. If they cooperate and provide useful information then imprison them until the war is over. If they do not cooperate then let them face harsh interrogation. If they yield and deliver useful information then imprison them until the war is over. If they do not yield then kill them.

    I could warm up to execution of the captured by the most barbaric method the enemy has used. When they stop their barbarity then we stop ours. If they burn one lawful combatant to death then we burn one hundred of theirs to death. When they stop. We stop.

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    Re: Gov. Scott Walker: Don't Rule Out 'Boots on the Ground' Against ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Right. A "leader" like GW Bush who led 4000 Americans to their untimely and unnecessary deaths in Iraq and stirred up a hornets nest in the entire ME. Bring it on my ass. What a loser.
    What makes you think I agree with Mr. Bush? His rules of engagement were the beginning of the end of our success. I understand that you do not like Bush. Liberals, in general will never like a Republican, even if that Establishment Republican is only a little less damaging than the most virulent Islamofascist supporter. Try to stay focused.

    We need a leader willing to have a victory that will last for a generation. We should shun "leaders" who only look to the next election.

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    Re: Gov. Scott Walker: Don't Rule Out 'Boots on the Ground' Against ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Syria is Syria's business.

    They have their own government and their own military forces.... and we needed to butt out.
    A well-timed move, in early 2012, would have knocked out Asad and cut Hezbollah's supply line without deployment of a single US soldier, and the vacuum that gave rise to ISIS would never have occurred.
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    Re: Gov. Scott Walker: Don't Rule Out 'Boots on the Ground' Against ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    "The boots were just fine. The rules of engagement were not. If we want to win wars the enemy must be killed in gruesome ways, his places burned and laid desolate. We should try to actually win the next war."

    Really? Once an enemy unlawful enemy combatant is captured they need to face interrogation. If they cooperate and provide useful information then imprison them until the war is over. If they do not cooperate then let them face harsh interrogation. If they yield and deliver useful information then imprison them until the war is over. If they do not yield then kill them.

    I could warm up to execution of the captured by the most barbaric method the enemy has used. When they stop their barbarity then we stop ours. If they burn one lawful combatant to death then we burn one hundred of theirs to death. When they stop. We stop.
    You took 10 years to kill Osama Bin Laden and can't handle some 300 Al Queda members. (with a budget of $1 trillion)
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    Re: Gov. Scott Walker: Don't Rule Out 'Boots on the Ground' Against ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Syria is Syria's business.

    They have their own government and their own military forces.... and we needed to butt out.
    Bush has already confessed his one regret on the 2003 invasion of Iraq, the rise of ISIS. But the partisans on the right here prefer to blame it all on Obama, lol. A very big reason why things never change, partisans on both side blame the opposing party and excuse their own.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Gov. Scott Walker: Don't Rule Out 'Boots on the Ground' Against ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Bush has already confessed his one regret on the 2003 invasion of Iraq, the rise of ISIS. But the partisans on the right here prefer to blame it all on Obama, lol. A very big reason why things never change, partisans on both side blame the opposing party and excuse their own.
    You'll need to document your claim about what you say GWB said.
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    Re: Gov. Scott Walker: Don't Rule Out 'Boots on the Ground' Against ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    A well-timed move, in early 2012, would have knocked out Asad and cut Hezbollah's supply line without deployment of a single US soldier, and the vacuum that gave rise to ISIS would never have occurred.
    Assad is Syria's problem. If indeed he is a problem for them. Either way he isn't our responsibility.

    Hezbollah is Israel's problem.

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