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    Re: Gov. Scott Walker: Don't Rule Out 'Boots on the Ground' Against ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Annnnnddd.....

    You have nothing to back that claim up with either.

    The whole "Dem Dere Mooslumz hate us fer R freedumbz" theory has failed to be proven.
    A great (perhaps the greatest) Western scholar of Islam disagrees with you, and wrote this in 1990.

    The Roots of Muslim Rage

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    Reproduced with permission of the copyright owner. Further reproduction prohibited without permission. The Roots of Muslim Rage. Lewis, Bernard. The Atlantic ...
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    Re: Gov. Scott Walker: Don't Rule Out 'Boots on the Ground' Against ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    The topic isn't Conservatism, Liberalism, or Libertarianism.

    The topic is U.S. Action in the Middle East.

    Because one person has a particular "Lean", does not mean their beliefs can be put into some kind of vacuum of which They believe in X, Y, Z across the board.

    You can't debate this by debating someone's "Lean" rather than them.
    Politics colors ones worldview, manifested in international diplomacy, contrast the differences manifested in Carter, and Obama to Bush and Reagan. See how this works?

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    Re: Gov. Scott Walker: Don't Rule Out 'Boots on the Ground' Against ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Which means you don't accept the truth of his post.
    Perhaps he should have begun his tale in the usual way, "Once upon a time..."

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    Re: Gov. Scott Walker: Don't Rule Out 'Boots on the Ground' Against ISIS

    You had boots on the ground in Iraq before. Maybe some new boots can do a better job.

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    Re: Gov. Scott Walker: Don't Rule Out 'Boots on the Ground' Against ISIS

    "I suppose with all of the benefit of hindsight everything is obvious. Cool for you. Reagan did the right thing. You want an administration to look 40 years into the future. Obama was unwilling or unable to look two years into the future."
    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    There was no need to look 40 years into the future. Islamic terrorism was already a fact in the 1980s. Hell, the attack on the Beirut barracks - the deadliest attack on Americans at the time - happened in 1983. What Reagan didn't foresee was that these attacks would continue and maybe funding these people wasn't a good idea. Now we can reap his harvest.
    And where was the great menace of that age? Reagan defeated the Evil Empire. The Effeminate One on the golf course cannot even say Evil Empire.

    Islamic terrorism has been a fact since the mid 620s. The Soviet Union needed to be defeated. Reagan defeated the Soviet Union. The Effeminate One on the golf course supports the Islamofascists. It is his harvest the middle east is reaping. Obama has a very great deal of blood on his hands.

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    Re: Gov. Scott Walker: Don't Rule Out 'Boots on the Ground' Against ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    Well the majority of civilians - the voters you know - do not want us to go back into Iraq. So you are on the losing end of that argument. So if it is that important to you then go over there and help out the Peshmerga yourself.
    Sometimes leadership is required. It is such a shame we have no adult leadership at the national level.

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    Re: Gov. Scott Walker: Don't Rule Out 'Boots on the Ground' Against ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    So 100's of 1000's of troops for 10 years is "lack of military involvement"? More absurdity. We tried that and it failed miserably and made things worse. It is time to try something else....anything else.
    Maybe we should actually complete the win before an Islamofascist supporter occupies the White House.

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    Re: Gov. Scott Walker: Don't Rule Out 'Boots on the Ground' Against ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Maybe we should actually complete the win before an Islamofascist supporter occupies the White House.
    And how would you suggest we could win? The more we fight them the more join their ranks. The answer lies elsewhere.

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    Re: Gov. Scott Walker: Don't Rule Out 'Boots on the Ground' Against ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Annnnnddd.....

    You have nothing to back that claim up with either.

    The whole "Dem Dere Mooslumz hate us fer R freedumbz" theory has failed to be proven.
    It has never been a secret, why so many in the ME hate America, though it has been ignored. The George W Bush list of reasons can't be found here.

    Full text: bin Laden's 'letter to America'
    Online document: the full text of Osama bin Laden's "letter to the American people", reported in today's Observer. The letter first appeared on the internet in Arabic and has since been translated and circulated by Islamists in Britain.

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/200...24/theobserver
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    Re: Gov. Scott Walker: Don't Rule Out 'Boots on the Ground' Against ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    And where was the great menace of that age?
    Irrelevant, funding religious fundamentalists to fight your enemy and then believing they won't turn around and look at you as their next logical target shows a lack of foresight. What? Did Reagan suddenly believe the crazy terrorists would go home and not take issue with the US' role in their countries? Did he believe that they wouldn't associate the US with US backed dictatorships? America's warhawks have very little foresight. They act and then expect everyone to deal with their failures. Just look at Iraq. Bush started the war, declared the surge a success and then signed withdrawal agreements. Now we have to deal with the aftermath of irrational foreign policies in the Middle East and Muslims. Again.
    Last edited by Hatuey; 02-04-15 at 07:39 PM.
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