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    Re: Gov. Scott Walker: Don't Rule Out 'Boots on the Ground' Against ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    That my friend..... is just the rhetoric.
    Having lived for 18 years outside the US, I beg to differ.
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    Re: Gov. Scott Walker: Don't Rule Out 'Boots on the Ground' Against ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    You know I would say you cant make this **** up, but someone obviously did and you are repeating it. From Time Magazine's reporting at the time:



    Iraq’s Government, Not Obama, Called Time on the U.S. Troop Presence | TIME.com

    A big fail your attempts to rewrite history.
    Time magazine?...........cmon now...

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    Re: Gov. Scott Walker: Don't Rule Out 'Boots on the Ground' Against ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Yes..

    Let us continue to wage international decades long wars spanning my children's lifetime because a group of dudes with swords "be dissin' us"

    That is foolish. They are determined to attack us. And there's a reason why DoD refers to this conflict as "The Long War."
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    Re: Gov. Scott Walker: Don't Rule Out 'Boots on the Ground' Against ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    well, that is an incredible job of avoiding the subject.

    You asked for someone to show you that Terrorism is a threat to safety and I did.

    What you think about Iraq in the 50's is irrelevant and, frankly, boring, I doubt you have a clue.
    Didn't say safety.... your changing the goalposts.

    I said a threat to our freedoms......

    Which in a way it is... but only because we allow our government to take them from us...

    Therefore... our GOVERNMENT is a threat to our freedoms as a result of its reaction to Terrorism.


    Terrorism itself will never cause us to lose our freedom unless we let it win, by allowing our terror to make us give the government more control over us.

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    Re: Gov. Scott Walker: Don't Rule Out 'Boots on the Ground' Against ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    This President is in the habit of making a show of action and mouthing platitudes, but doing very little that counts. Many Americans are not taken in by his habitual lying.

    The mixed force Kagan is describing is a somewhat smaller and more mobile version--with less emphasis on armor and more on armed helicopters--of the heavily armed force the U.S. has maintained at bases around South Korea, keeping the peace on the peninsula for for sixty years now. Like that force, it would also have a carrier or two on call as backup. It is what Mr. Obama should have left behind to stabilize Iraq, but--I believe for personal political gain--chose not to. All that did was create the pressing need to put a force like this back in, after the situation has deteriorated and made the job much harder and riskier.

    Now the task is to recapture large, important areas that allied servicemen died to secure not many years ago. In Iraq, at least, it is Mr. Obama's fault that these savages were allowed to take over these cities and districts. His protestations about being bound by a status of forces agreement ring false. That is a flimsy cover story cooked up to hide his dereliction.

    The L.A. Times just ran an article about plans to retake Mosul, maybe by this summer. I hope so. It's seemed to me for quite a while that because Mosul is Iraq's second-largest city, is near large oil fields, is at the farthest end of their supply lines, and is close enough to Irbil and Kurdish Iraq to make that a good base of operations, a successful campaign to retake it would badly tarnish the image of success the jihadists' appeal relies on so much. If some of them are forced to come out of the city and fight in the open, we may get to see how badly they want to fight when napalm is being dropped on them.


    all this is beginning to look a whole lot like the Pentagon Papers.....

    'we had the means....we did it the other way...
    Americans can always be counted on doing the right thing...after they have tried everything else." Winston Churchill.

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    Re: Gov. Scott Walker: Don't Rule Out 'Boots on the Ground' Against ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Having lived for 18 years outside the US, I beg to differ.
    I don't care what goes on outside of the U.S.

    Europe's proximity to the land of radical islam makes that area a greater threat to them.

    We have a few advantages in that regard.

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    Re: Gov. Scott Walker: Don't Rule Out 'Boots on the Ground' Against ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    I don't care what goes on outside of the U.S.

    Europe's proximity to the land of radical islam makes that area a greater threat to them.

    We have a few advantages in that regard.
    No, we do not. The course of action you advocate would increase US civilian casualties many times over.
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    Re: Gov. Scott Walker: Don't Rule Out 'Boots on the Ground' Against ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by Chainsaw View Post
    Yemen, Syria, Libya, much of North Africa, half of Iraq have all seen exponential growth in AQ and/or ISIS over the last few years. These threats will have to be dealt with again, the only debate is how big and powerful do we let the terrorists get before we do.
    US policies in all those regions have given rise to those groups. Wouldn't sound policies be preferred?
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Gov. Scott Walker: Don't Rule Out 'Boots on the Ground' Against ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by Travis007 View Post
    Time magazine?...........cmon now...
    Perhaps he will cite Rolling Stone next.

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    Re: Gov. Scott Walker: Don't Rule Out 'Boots on the Ground' Against ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    I don't care what goes on outside of the U.S.

    Europe's proximity to the land of radical islam makes that area a greater threat to them.

    We have a few advantages in that regard.
    This is why libertarianism, big and little L, is so perplexed by the reality of international diplomacy. When all the talks fail, libertarians can't seem to present a cogent response.

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