do you think if "crazy" Bush was still in office ISIS would feel so comfortable cutting heads of our own citizens?
do I really have to point these things out or have you been living in a cave?
I dunno, but they did't seem to have an issue with killilng thousands of our own citizens on US soil, and using US aircraft to do it.do you think if "crazy" Bush was still in office ISIS would feel so comfortable cutting heads of our own citizens?
I guess we all live in our own little worlds. In your world, everything Obama is bad, and everything Bush is good. In my world, there is a little good and bad in every POTUS.do I really have to point these things out or have you been living in a cave?
And where in all that diversionary bull**** is there an answer to
Based on what?My assertion is that ISIS is the new name for Al Qaeda in Iraq, which came into being after we invaded Iraq in 2004. Furthermore, that its precursor organization was working with a Kurdish militant organization prior to the war in Iraq that was hostile to Saddam.
Your assertion as far as I can tell is that ISIS would be a problem today even if we never went into Iraq and I don't think that history in anyway backs your assertion.
But, clearly we are done here
"Small people talk about people, average people talk about events, great people talk about ideas" Eleanor Roosevelt
Im sorry.. but you need to back that up with something that is reality based and not just fun talking points on MSNBC...
as far as the SOFA you are 100% incorrect..Obama made it impossible for them to agree on any troops due to his call for for representation ..that was NOT the time...but I think we all get it was all about OBAMA as always and HIS ELECTION...PERIOD...
Obama is an abject failure...he cant negotiate a pack of gum
At these bases there would also be a total of about 7,000 men in a quick reaction force, of which about one-third would be available at any time. The assault and transport helicopters of the combat aviation brigade would take them and possibly some artillery, vehicles, etc. to wherever they might be needed in a fight. Most of the other forces would be supporting these ground and air forces by defending the bases, maintaining equipment, bringing in supplies, etc.
So only a fraction of the 25,000 total involved in the effort would be within shooting range of the jihadists, and they would have all sorts of resources backing them up, e.g. attack helicopters, search-and-rescue and medevac units, and drones. And in the unlikely event that even more firepower were ever needed, carrier aircraft and even heavy bombers could be brought to bear pretty quickly.
I agree with Kagan that an effort like this would be very risky--but that letting these people survive is even riskier yet. I remember President Kennedy's speech to the nation on October 22, 1962, when he acknowledged the dangers of the military measures he was taking--sending 100 ships and subs to blockade Cuba, moving 1,000 combat aircraft into striking range, getting 100,000 troops in position to invade Cuba, if necessary--but said the greatest danger of all would be for the U.S. to do nothing about the Soviet nuclear missiles in Cuba. He was right. That would have been an open invitation to the Soviets to take a chance, before long, on invading West Berlin. By being too anxious to avoid World War III over Cuba, we would have been asking for it to break out over Germany.
I doubt anything like the steps Kagan proposed will happen while this President is in office--and so much the worse for this country. Islamic jihadists are the common enemies of all civilized people, and there is no living in the world with them. They are just like the bastards who attacked us on 9/11, and this time they have an even better safe haven and even more resources. Thanks to Mr. Obama, they are also being given all sorts of time to draw their plans against us.
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Bush had won the war.. Obama allowed those who fought for freedom to be slaughtered...all Obama haad to to do is negotiate a SOFA.. Malaki had to give lip service we all know that.. but Obama wanted OUT period.. irt was about OBAMA...not Iraq..