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    Re: Gov. Scott Walker: Don't Rule Out 'Boots on the Ground' Against ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    There is a war "for us" there-at least Obama seems to think so.
    You seem to think so. I don't give a **** what Obama thinks... Im not in a forum with him. I am with you. And I want to know why you agree with him.

    We gain an ally and deny that territory to Iran and ISIS, exactly what we aren't doing now.
    We all know Iraq will never be an ally of the United States. That part of the world is too volatile for anything to last long at all..

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    Re: Gov. Scott Walker: Don't Rule Out 'Boots on the Ground' Against ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    America should be looking out for its own best interests, like every nation does. Isolationism, incidentally isn't in our own best interests. Weve already learned this the hard way.
    And what hard way was that?

    You mean before we were known around the world to have a 1st class military and someone decided to attack us?

    The world is a different scene now..... You can't use Pearl Harbor as an example anymore.

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    Re: Gov. Scott Walker: Don't Rule Out 'Boots on the Ground' Against ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    You have yet to provide any sources to back up your claims. Prior to our going into Iraq, the predecessor to Al Qaeda was a militant jihadist organization that was founded in Jordan to overthrow the king of Jordan. However, Al Qaeda in Iraq that later became ISIS was formed in Iraq in 2004. Even the Israeli lobby admits that:

    http://www.washingtoninstitute.org/u...e_20_Zelin.pdf
    I see nothing in your source confirming your claim that ISIS was trying to overthrow Saddam. Perhaps you can point it out.

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    Re: Gov. Scott Walker: Don't Rule Out 'Boots on the Ground' Against ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    I see nothing in your source confirming your claim that ISIS was trying to overthrow Saddam. Perhaps you can point it out.
    After we invaded Afghanistan, Jamaat al-Tawhid wa-l-Jihad affiliated with the Kurdish Islamist group Ansar al Islam. Saddam used his intelligence to monitor the group believing them to be a threat to Iraq. This was all confirmed in the Senate Report on Pre-War intelligence: http://www.intelligence.senate.gov/phaseiiaccuracy.pdf
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    Re: Gov. Scott Walker: Don't Rule Out 'Boots on the Ground' Against ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    When the FBI went to the Flight school they found out that Moussaoui only wanted to learn to fly and turn wide body jets and no take-offs and landings. That is what set off the red flags. They did not need FISA to investigate other flight schools either.
    Again, false. And to be able to connect the dots they would need the info that FISA specifically barred them from gathering.

    Are you saying that they should have profiled Moussaoui? You do realize that you have the benefit of the outcome to guide your judgment of what they should have done, yes?
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    Re: Gov. Scott Walker: Don't Rule Out 'Boots on the Ground' Against ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    Why the need for American troops at all? Can't those people defend themselves? Here, I'll answer the last question for you, NO, they left their arms that we gave them on the battle field and ran away like a bunch of scared children. Malaki and the Iraqis have nobody to blame except themselves.

    Keep on blaming Obama though, it makes the conservative look good to other conservative chickenhawks in forums.
    The 16,000 troops requested by Gates were intended to carry out an ongoing training and support mission because we knew the Iraqi forces were not ready to defend themselves.

    The fact that they were not ready to defend themselves is not an excuse for leaving them to the Barbarian hordes.
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    Re: Gov. Scott Walker: Don't Rule Out 'Boots on the Ground' Against ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    After we invaded Afghanistan, Jamaat al-Tawhid wa-l-Jihad affiliated with the Kurdish Islamist group Ansar al Islam. Saddam used his intelligence to monitor the group believing them to be a threat to Iraq. This was all confirmed in the Senate Report on Pre-War intelligence: http://www.intelligence.senate.gov/phaseiiaccuracy.pdf
    Ahhh, so Saddam "believed" them to be a threat. Now point out where ISIS tried to actually overthrow Saddam.

    You are beating around the bush.

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    Re: Gov. Scott Walker: Don't Rule Out 'Boots on the Ground' Against ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    If they were on their terrorist list ? No
    Were they on a terrorist watch list?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Gov. Scott Walker: Don't Rule Out 'Boots on the Ground' Against ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    We left that nation with an elected government and a defense force numbering in the hundreds of thousands. If they government is so corrupt and inept that they cannot defeat a militant force number 30,000 at most in their own country, then how in the world is that our fault?
    We left a nation that was not ready to stand on its own two legs. Period.

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    Re: Gov. Scott Walker: Don't Rule Out 'Boots on the Ground' Against ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    If you think the left can't beat them, then as a member of the right, what keeps you from going over there to fight them yourself? The Peshmerga is an improvised force, they will certainly take you.
    I love the goalposts you lefties set.

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