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    Re: Gov. Scott Walker: Don't Rule Out 'Boots on the Ground' Against ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    The "surge had nothing to do with the reduction in attacks, it was the "great awakening" of the Sunni tribes that rejected Al Qaeda and who were promised representation in the new Govt. which they never got. They are the same ones that allowed ISIS to take over much of their territory in Iraq after Maliki persecuted them. Bush's choice of Maliki was just one of a series of bad decisions that sealed Iraq's fate long before Obama had any say.
    And before you say Maliki was elected I will remind you that he was first vetted and approved by the CIA and GW himself. Malaiki was a Shia terrorist with close ties to Iran but Bush was desperate to find anyone who would take the job before his terms were over.
    The "great awakening" was hastened by our recommitment-and we not only encouraged the movement but paid for it.
    Iraq War in Anbar Province - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    Re: Gov. Scott Walker: Don't Rule Out 'Boots on the Ground' Against ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    I would remind you again of the billons and billions spent training and equipping the Iraqi army for 10 years prior only to have Maliki turn them into a sectarian hit squad for Iran that would not defend Sunni areas from ISIS. You can never explain away the huge blunders that followed the illegal invasion of Iraq. An invasion that was rushed for political reasons causing more US and Iraqi casualties, and worst of all was done without a plan for the aftermath. It was a operation born to fail and fail it did. It will go down in history as the worst (and most expensive) foreign policy blunder in modern times.
    Obama lost the war for political purposes-the fact that Iraq could not stand up to ISIS and we have now returned is evidence on its face that we should not have left.

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    Re: Gov. Scott Walker: Don't Rule Out 'Boots on the Ground' Against ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    Funny, a Progressive website misses entirely that the final SOF agreement fell on Obama to negotiate.

    A quick question: If the Bush SOF that he negotiated in 2008 had orders to leave 16,000 troops in Iraq do you think Obama would have kept 16,000 troops in Iraq?

    Bush stated at the time that he was negotiating a SOF agreement that would leave the SOF in place for the next President. Obama actually used that statement at the time to target McCain as a Bush lackey. Obama wanted to get the troops out of Iraq, he said so. The only reason they were there in 2011 was because he needed to do it closer to his second election run. He submarined the SOF negotiation so that he could keep his promise even while all the grown ups in the room were urging a larger force in Iraq.
    Why the need for American troops at all? Can't those people defend themselves? Here, I'll answer the last question for you, NO, they left their arms that we gave them on the battle field and ran away like a bunch of scared children. Malaki and the Iraqis have nobody to blame except themselves.

    Keep on blaming Obama though, it makes the conservative look good to other conservative chickenhawks in forums.

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    Re: Gov. Scott Walker: Don't Rule Out 'Boots on the Ground' Against ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Of course it is our choice.

    If we packed up our **** and left......the middle east and quit meddling..... we keep our counter terrorist operations and intelligence gathering, and there isn't a damned thing they can do to us.

    If you think our military flexing some muscle and them spilling our blood in their backyard is preventing a terrorist attack, your deluded.
    They still hate you, they will still attack you, and they will be growing all the while.

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    Re: Gov. Scott Walker: Don't Rule Out 'Boots on the Ground' Against ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    Oh, this post is too funky to even touch.
    Not really, even if you'd like it to be.

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    Re: Gov. Scott Walker: Don't Rule Out 'Boots on the Ground' Against ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Isolationism is a hallmark of the 20th century GOP.
    Not to mention the current one, with Libertarians and TEAts .
    Rigghht. And TEAt? Is that the new mature lefty term?

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    Re: Gov. Scott Walker: Don't Rule Out 'Boots on the Ground' Against ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    Why the need for American troops at all? Can't those people defend themselves? Here, I'll answer the last question for you, NO, they left their arms that we gave them on the battle field and ran away like a bunch of scared children. Malaki and the Iraqis have nobody to blame except themselves.

    Keep on blaming Obama though, it makes the conservative look good to other conservative chickenhawks in forums.
    Actually, the fact that Obama pulled out (and took credit for doing it) only to now return to a much worse situation just makes him look like an inept and purely political hack. People aren't fooled, and they dont forget.

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    Re: Gov. Scott Walker: Don't Rule Out 'Boots on the Ground' Against ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Not every terrorist group.
    Saddam Hussein was loved by American diplomats, little did they know that after giving him chemical weapons, that he would be called a terrorist in later years.
    Among the chemical precursors provided to Iraq from American companies such as Alcolac International and Phillips was thiodiglycol, a substance needed to manufacture mustard gas, according to leaked portions of Iraq's "full, final and complete" disclosure of the sources for its weapons programs. The provision of chemical precursors from United States companies to Iraq was enabled by a Ronald Reagan Administration policy that removed Iraq from the State Department's list of State Sponsors of Terrorism. Alcolac was named as a defendant in the Aziz v. Iraq case presently pending in the United States District Court (Case No. 1:09-cv-00869-MJG). Both companies have since undergone reorganization. Phillips, once a subsidiary of Phillips Petroleum is now part of ConocoPhillips, an American oil and discount fossil fuel company. Alcolac International has since dissolved and reformed as Alcolac Inc.[26]
    Halabja chemical attack - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Oh, looky here, good old pals they were....

    tumblr_msmxpyfSBX1rncbh7o1_500.jpg

    Smile for the camera my good friend Saddam, we're going to have you hung at a later date, but you don't know it now. <giggle giggle snort snort>
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    Re: Gov. Scott Walker: Don't Rule Out 'Boots on the Ground' Against ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Actually, the fact that Obama pulled out (and took credit for doing it) only to now return to a much worse situation just makes him look like an inept and purely political hack. People aren't fooled, and they dont forget.
    People are stupid and easily buffaloed into starting unnecessary wars and conflicts by the USA too. We all sucked up "mushroom cloud" and "smoking gun" bull**** like people hitting a hookah in a smoke filled room.

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    Re: Gov. Scott Walker: Don't Rule Out 'Boots on the Ground' Against ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Rigghht. And TEAt? Is that the new mature lefty term?
    Far more honest and mature than this:

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Nixon was quite effective in Vietnam, the left lost the peace there as it apparently likes to do.
    And we can't forget the cold war.
    Or this:

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Correction-the left can't beat them.
    And especially this:

    I think most lefties must have some French in them, because they are so eager to surrender.
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