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    Re: Gov. Scott Walker: Don't Rule Out 'Boots on the Ground' Against ISIS

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    I totally agree.

    I guess Walker would be over there cleaning up that mess if he wasn't busy in Wisconsin, eh?

    Lots of people have great ideas about how to fight wars but few of them are ready to jump into one.

    It's always easy to tell someone else how to do it, but getting involved yourself in the fighting and dying is a whole 'nother story.

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    Re: Gov. Scott Walker: Don't Rule Out 'Boots on the Ground' Against ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    If they do or if they dont-none have a meaningful capacity to do anything about it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    So we should risk OUR lives for them?

    If they don't care enough to do something about it, **** em.

    But of course.... this is team America world police...

    Bringin' you FREEDOM... whether you want us or not!!!!!

    Well Caine, when you're right, you're right. Interesting choice for a picture too. If you really think about it, Reagan's funding of the mujahadeen in the 80s was based on a flawed sense of how America could export freedom. If we only gave religious extremists money, maybe then they'd turn their sights off the medium sized Satan (America) and turn it towards the big Satan (USSR). What Reagan didn't count on was what would happen when those religious extremists went home. Lack of foresight seems to be a condition of warhawks in the post-Reagan era and now we're left to deal with their mess.
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    Re: Gov. Scott Walker: Don't Rule Out 'Boots on the Ground' Against ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Well Caine, when you're right, you're right. Interesting choice for a picture too. If you really think about it, Reagan's funding of the mujahadeen in the 80s was based on a flawed sense of how America could export freedom. If we only gave religious extremists money, maybe then they'd turn their sights off the medium sized Satan (America) and turn it towards the big Satan (USSR).
    What Reagan didn't count on was what would happen when those religious extremists went home.
    Lack of foresight seems to be a condition of warhawks in the post-Reagan era and now we're left to deal with their mess.


    When you give religious extremists some dangerous weapons you don't know what they might decide to do with them.

    Their priorities are likely to be different from your priorities.

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    Re: Gov. Scott Walker: Don't Rule Out 'Boots on the Ground' Against ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    When you give religious extremists some dangerous weapons you don't know what they might decide to do with them.

    Their priorities are likely to be different from your priorities.
    Pretty much. Under Reagan financing of the CIA as it concerned the mujahideen rose by a factor of 20. Carter wasn't really interested in finding a military solution to the soviet invasion in Afghanistan. When Reagan became president, that all changed. The Reagan administration started throwing mountains of money at guys like Osama Bin Laden. Guys who fought the soviets and recruited using religion were the guys being funded. I wonder what either of those administrations thought would be the end result of that? I mean, we know Carter was a bit of an idiot but what was Reagan's excuse? Was he so old that he didn't foresee any future problems with funding religious extremists?
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    Re: Gov. Scott Walker: Don't Rule Out 'Boots on the Ground' Against ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    I totally agree.

    I guess Walker would be over there cleaning up that mess if he wasn't busy in Wisconsin, eh?

    Lots of people have great ideas about how to fight wars but few of them are ready to jump into one.

    It's always easy to tell someone else how to do it, but getting involved yourself in the fighting and dying is a whole 'nother story.
    Yeah, like telling a mechanic how to change spark plugs on your car if you've never done it and are a cook that stayed at a Holiday Inn last night. Gotta love those chickenhawks, they think they know best.

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    Re: Gov. Scott Walker: Don't Rule Out 'Boots on the Ground' Against ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    had to look up comorbidities....I do love medical terminilogy...co morbid ities .....oooh

    I was an exception in that my doc risked a friendship by making me do A1C's every three months for a year and a half till he got the GTL and caught it early. If it weren't for the side effect of high glucose from betahystine to treat the Menierre's I would be peachy....
    Interesting I didn't know that betahistine raises blood sugar levels, were you taking steroids too?

    Yeah medical terminology is kinda quirky, its based in greek but its not proper and often very badly translated-many of the fathers of medicine read latin and greek, but apparently not very well.

    Sounds like you have a great friend in that doc. I was listening to a comedian the other day who was talking about how all of his friends in old age are docs because it saves him from having to get an appointment.

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    Re: Gov. Scott Walker: Don't Rule Out 'Boots on the Ground' Against ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Except to do nothing, so someone else's kids can endure the effects of the do nothing strategy.
    The left is more than willing to pass problems on to the next generation. Just more of the benevolent charm, really.

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    Re: Gov. Scott Walker: Don't Rule Out 'Boots on the Ground' Against ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    So we should risk OUR lives for them?

    If they don't care enough to do something about it, **** em.


    But of course.... this is team America world police...

    Bringin' you FREEDOM... whether you want us or not!!!!!

    No. We look out for our own long term interests. ISIS isn't part of that.

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    Re: Gov. Scott Walker: Don't Rule Out 'Boots on the Ground' Against ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    You don't seem to understand.

    There isn't a "war" for us. This is up to Iraq.

    We have to stop being the world police. Putting our assets and lives on the line for other people... and for what?

    What is there to gain from this? Iraq will never be an "Ally" in the typical sense of the word.

    That area of the world is too confused right now to have a permanent identity.....
    There is a war "for us" there-at least Obama seems to think so.

    We gain an ally and deny that territory to Iran and ISIS, exactly what we aren't doing now.

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    Re: Gov. Scott Walker: Don't Rule Out 'Boots on the Ground' Against ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    You don't seem to understand.

    I don't give a **** what you think Obama wants to do.

    I think about America. America is NOT Obama... Or Bush.... or Clinton.

    All your partisan hackery in this thread is lost on me... Im not going to sit here and bitch back and forth between "Well Obama did this and Bush did that and wah wah wah" like you petty mongrels.

    Regardless of who the President happens to be at the time.... America should not be meddling in the affairs of Middle Eastern nations. Period.
    America should be looking out for its own best interests, like every nation does. Isolationism, incidentally isn't in our own best interests. Weve already learned this the hard way.

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