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    Re: Gov. Scott Walker: Don't Rule Out 'Boots on the Ground' Against ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    ISIS had its start in Syria, how would us staying in Iraq prevented that? We were told that Bush left a stable Iraq under Maliki are you saying he lied?
    It was stable until Obama made a mess of it in both Iraq and Syria.

    He also made a mess of Egypt and Libya. O has a great track record in the middle east.

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    Re: Gov. Scott Walker: Don't Rule Out 'Boots on the Ground' Against ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    I think it was fair to ask you to name a few members of the "right" that you are referring to. Surely you could do that easily since it was you that made the claim."Vague" is putting it mildly when discussing your claims.
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    Perhaps you should have asked me for proof instead as playing with semantics.

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    Re: Gov. Scott Walker: Don't Rule Out 'Boots on the Ground' Against ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by Paxaeon View Post
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    Perhaps you should have asked me for proof instead as playing with semantics.
    Asking you to name some of the legions of the "right" you claim WAS asking for proof.

    But you knew that.

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    Re: Gov. Scott Walker: Don't Rule Out 'Boots on the Ground' Against ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Must be really heroic for you to offer up other peoples sons and daughters in some pathetic attempt at showing off your Conservative Bravado.


    Ah I forget when it was the current stock of Republicans set the terms for Obama's war.

    It was Obama who said "no boots on the ground". So instead of making this about Republicans again, let's maybe focus on the guy who has the power and has been sending Americans to their death for seven years....

    And that would be your Barrack Hussein Obama, the same man who allowed the assassination of a sitting US diplomat to pass without ado of any kind and the stupid **** who has admitted he knew ISIS was on the rise BEFORE he decided to get those political pawns hew calls troops home for his re-coronation.

    As much as you hate to admit it, Republicans are better at war than Democrats.....at least they know when to hold and when to fold. Obama cashes in then has to ante up all over again...

    His only strategy is blame Republicans and get his info on terrorism "just like you do" from TV.

    Yeah, seven years later this is still a Republican mess and Obama is, as usual faultless because of his skin color.
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    Re: Gov. Scott Walker: Don't Rule Out 'Boots on the Ground' Against ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Its our war too.
    Obama appears to think so.
    Obama is using our air support to help the Iraqi's not our troops. He agrees with me that the locals need to be the ones to stop ISIS on the ground. Otherwise it will be constant war.

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    Re: Gov. Scott Walker: Don't Rule Out 'Boots on the Ground' Against ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    If I recall, even after the deposing of Saddam, Al Qaeda in Iraq wasn't a factor. The main combatants against the coalition forces were the Baath party. ISIS came to rise only after the power vacuum when the Status of Forces agreement between the US and Iraq wasn't achieved and the retreat of the incompetent and politically appointed leaders of the Iraqi security forces.

    Had the Status of Forces agreement been achieved, and US forces left in Iraq, likely that the Iraqi based ISIS wouldn't have taken as much land or forces as they ended up taking.
    Al Qaeda in Iraq was quite active in the early 2000s after we deposed Saddam.

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    Re: Gov. Scott Walker: Don't Rule Out 'Boots on the Ground' Against ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    And Al Qaeda in Iraq's predecessor was Jama'at al-Tawhid wal-Jihad, which was formed in 1999.

    If I remember correctly, Clinton was president then.
    That group started in Jordan. It never became a problem for us until 2004, after we went into Iraq when they started to become part of the insurgency.
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    Re: Gov. Scott Walker: Don't Rule Out 'Boots on the Ground' Against ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by imagep View Post
    And we weren't attacked by Iraq when Clinton was POTUS. Of course we weren't attacked or even provoked by Iraq when Bush was POTUS either, yet he decided to go to war against Iraq.

    If Bush didn't attack Iraq a dozen years ago, do you think we would have any business in Iraq today?

    you forget Clintons started the Iraq war and trumped it up to cover Cigargate..

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    Re: Gov. Scott Walker: Don't Rule Out 'Boots on the Ground' Against ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by Fearandloathing View Post
    Ah I forget when it was the current stock of Republicans set the terms for Obama's war.

    It was Obama who said "no boots on the ground". So instead of making this about Republicans again, let's maybe focus on the guy who has the power and has been sending Americans to their death for seven years....

    And that would be your Barrack Hussein Obama, the same man who allowed the assassination of a sitting US diplomat to pass without ado of any kind and the stupid **** who has admitted he knew ISIS was on the rise BEFORE he decided to get those political pawns hew calls troops home for his re-coronation.

    As much as you hate to admit it, Republicans are better at war than Democrats.....at least they know when to hold and when to fold. Obama cashes in then has to ante up all over again...

    His only strategy is blame Republicans and get his info on terrorism "just like you do" from TV.

    Yeah, seven years later this is still a Republican mess and Obama is, as usual faultless because of his skin color.
    You got one thing right. Republicans are better at getting us into endless wars that make our country less safe.

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    Re: Gov. Scott Walker: Don't Rule Out 'Boots on the Ground' Against ISIS

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    ISIS had its start in Syria, how would us staying in Iraq prevented that? We were told that Bush left a stable Iraq under Maliki are you saying he lied?
    Yes, ISIS started in Syria, and spilled over, taking huge tracts of land. Had US troop presence been maintained, especially FACs, my thinking is that ISIS wouldn't have been take to take and hold that land, cutting off their supply of militants as well as the US equipment the Iraqi's ran away from.

    There's a difference between a stable and reenforced with US troops Iraq and one that's been abandoned due to lack of SoF.
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