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Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

Peter King said:
Well, and they are wrong. Even last year a child died in my country (in the bible belt) as the result of measles. It can kill and there is no logical reason to deny your child the protection against measles or polio.
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Polio, yes. ...and read back a bunch of pages if you want some logical reasons.
 
Bodhisattva said:
Same here... and I am in another country now although I am a physical masterpiece of perfection at 43 years old. Except for my bad back. Two bad shoulders. Three past concussions. Not much cartilage in my knee. A bunch of other minor pains. Man, Extreme sports can mess you up.
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Indeed. For me it was a combination of sports injuries and stubborn ass stupidity in my attempt to say **** you to an injury. Not the best idea ever in hindsight.
 
minnie616 said:
Cool. Our ancestors came over on the Mayflower together.
I am a defendant of Mary Chilton.
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I am a descendent of John and Priscilla Alden.
 
Henrin said:
Indeed. For me it was a combination of sports injuries and stubborn ass stupidity in my attempt to say **** you to an injury. Not the best idea ever in hindsight.
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Agreed. I am doing that right now and need to go to the doctor/sports therapist.
 
Bodhisattva said:
You don't have to be a parent to have an opinion but until you have a child and have to make a difficult decision regarding their life I will ignore the insults and the opinion...
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what insults? That I stated that they were ignorant? Because to me, that is not an opinion but a fact. If you ignore the health of a child because of ignorance, then you are ignorant.

And ignore as much as you want, I don't take offend at that or anything like that. But I am still going to be giving my opinion that my statement is backed up by facts.
 
Bodhisattva said:
Do you have a government security clearance related job? I have a family member that does and has routine FBI checks... the neighbors are used to it now.
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Yep. It's a pain.
 
JANFU said:
Many schools demand students have vaccinations. Thoughts on vaccination are? Consider the costs of not having your child vaccinated- not always money- but health risks to themselves and others.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/31/u...lumn-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0

HUNTINGTON BEACH, Calif. — Their children have been sent home from school. Their families are barred from birthday parties and neighborhood play dates. Online, people call them negligent and criminal. And as officials in 14 states grapple to contain a spreading measles outbreak that began near here at Disneyland, the parents at the heart of America’s anti-vaccine movement are being blamed for incubating an otherwise preventable public-health crisis.

Measles anxiety rippled thousands of miles beyond its center on Friday as officials scrambled to try to contain a wider spread of the highly contagious disease — which America declared vanquished 15 years ago, before a statistically significant number of parents started refusing to vaccinate their children.
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We should also keep the ****ing illegal aliens out of the country.
 
Peter King said:
Well, and they are wrong. Even last year a child died in my country (in the bible belt) as the result of measles. It can kill and there is no logical reason to deny your child the protection against measles or polio.
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That's horrible, of course, but....1 child?
 
molten_dragon said:
Vaccinations should be required before being allowed to send your child to school, unless the child has a valid medical reason not to have them.

You shouldn't be allowed to put my kid at risk because you're an idiot.
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Have you sent the President your thoughts? He allowed all the illegal aliens into the country with all of their diseases. American citizens had their children die. And still we have not risen up and swept him and his regime out of office.
 
Bodhisattva said:
Polio, yes. ...and read back a bunch of pages if you want some logical reasons.
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There are about 99 pages, so a bit of an indication as to where those logical reasons against it can be found.
 
rabbitcaebannog said:
It's a public health risk to not get vaccinations for diseases that at one time were wide spread. I'm sad to hear some diseases that were once almost eradicated are coming back due to people not vaccinating their children.
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They are coming back because the monster in the White House cares more about the Democratic Party than he does about American children. He let the diseased illegal aliens into the country. He did it to change the electorate into something more malleable and more to the Party's liking.

What does it matter that American children die?
 
Peter King said:
There are about 99 pages, so a bit of an indication as to where those logical reasons against it can be found.
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The last 30 or so for sure... ;)
 
mac said:
That's horrible, of course, but....1 child?
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Yes, because in most parts of the Netherlands the level of vaccination is higher than 95%. Sadly in a small part, the bible belt where they choose to not vaccinate out of religious reasons. They feel that if their child gets polio, measles or a deadly disease that is vaccinated against, then they/the child must have done something that god is punishing them for.
 
Hatuey said:
I blame the anti-science hippies and the anti-science christian fundies for this nonsense. I've never seen such ideologically different groups being so collectively responsible for widespread stupidity.
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Let me guess, you will have nothing but praise for the monster who encouraged the invasion by illegal aliens who brought in the diseases with them.

How do you feel about American Indians? Just checking.
 
Sherman123 said:
Mandatory vaccinations are the answer. Charges should be filed against those who refuse to comply and only medical exemptions should be allowed.
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Securing our border is the answer. Charges should be filed against presidents and other criminal politicians who refuse to follow the Constitution.
 
beefheart said:
The anti-vaxers are incredibly ignorant, self centered idiots. They refuse to understand the settled science on this.

Their kids should be kept out of any public school.
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The illegal aliens who are bringing these diseases in should be kept out of the country. Those who support open borders are incredibly ignorant, self-centered idiots.
 
Peter King said:
what insults? That I stated that they were ignorant? Because to me, that is not an opinion but a fact. If you ignore the health of a child because of ignorance, then you are ignorant.

And ignore as much as you want, I don't take offend at that or anything like that. But I am still going to be giving my opinion that my statement is backed up by facts.
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"You" was in the plural sense... sorry I was not clear.
 
Deuce said:
This question is asked a hundred times in every single vaccine thread.

Some children are too young to be vaccinated. These same children are particularly vulnerable to infectious disease.

Some people are immunocompromised so cannot be vaccinated, and are similarly vulnerable.

Some people are allergic to materials in the vaccine (usually the preservatives). These people cannot be vaccinated.

Sometimes vaccines wear off or the immunity doesn't take hold.

All of these people are put at greater risk by someone choosing not to be vaccinated.

Additionally, a critical mass of immunizations creates a herd immunity. The virus cannot find enough hosts to spread to, so becomes self-contained. More available hosts also leaves more ability to mutate as well, potentially reducing the effectiveness of the vaccine.
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Of course encouraging many hundreds of thousands of illegal aliens in who bring the diseases has nothing to do with it.
 
Sherman123 said:
Mandatory vaccinations are the answer. Charges should be filed against those who refuse to comply and only medical exemptions should be allowed.
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You should be flogged and deported for such a ridiculous assertion...
 
Misterveritis said:
Of course encouraging many hundreds of thousands of illegal aliens in who bring the diseases has nothing to do with it.
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Dude, we got it. Enough with the ****ing illegal aliens... this is a vaccine thread.
 
Lursa said:
Except shingles which suck and no one should be casually exposed to it and have to deal with that later.

I know people that get shingles and it makes them really sick and uncomfortable. I really need to get that shot now.
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People don't get shingles from other people. Shingles happens when the varicella virus hangs out in our bodies after having chicken pox. If you had chicken pox before, then you can get shingles.
 
Cephus said:
It's not just that, but the fact that we have a lot of illegal aliens who have come across the border carrying diseases that have not been wiped out in Central and South America
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Agree.

Absolutely, these anti-science idiots are a big factor for the spread of disease but not the only factor. Personally, I think that we ought to bar children from attending school, *ANY* school, without being vaccinated. Screw religious and moral objections.
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We should get government out of the business of running schools. Let private companies offer educational experiences. Allow them to set their own requirements for receiving their service for a fee. Some can choose to accept those who have no vaccines. Others can demand it as a term of service.

Secure our borders.

Problem solved.
 
Declan said:
I don't know if it is true or not, but I really don't care either. We can replace all the trailer park conservative freedom figters with hard working Mexicans in a matter of a few hours if we need to.
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This is not only pure evil it is the face of today's democratic party.
 
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