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Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

I remain open and prefer to find information and solutions rather than to stick my fingers in my ear like one fearful of what might be.

I'm will to hear your evidence. Keeping in mind that lack of evidence is not evidence.
 
I'm will to hear your evidence. Keeping in mind that lack of evidence is not evidence.

Evidence of what? That people experience adverse reactions? That there are reactions that we are not aware of or that the numbers are under-reported? Those are facts.

SIDS or ADHD being affected or not is just a worry. I hope it is not so but it is a fact that the possibility remains open as there is so much that they do not know.
 
Yet I am allergic to certain penicillin's. Hmmm...

So I guess that everybody is fine to eat strawberries and peanuts then?

Your argument isn't that vaccines trigger allergies, but that they actually produce neurological disabilities (or that there is doubt they they don't). The onus is on your to provide substance to this argument. What is the scientific theory under which your argument is based? Which element within the vaccines would rewire someone's brain?
 
I change my own oil and recycle it too of course.

You must have ten foot long arms because I cannot even reach my oil plug not having a hydraulic lift or a crane or something. Hope you have your tetanus up to day because if you scratch yourself on the metal or step on a rusty screw in the parking lot of the recycling center, then you are a goner.
 
Everybody reacts differently... one size fits all for vaccines is foolish.

If we impose mandatory vaccination, and one child died a year from adverse reactions the trade-off is well worth it

Considering the yearly death tolls from diseases that have now been mostly eradicated, 1000 children could die a year of such reactions in the trade-off is worth it
 
Failure to vaccinate should be considered child neglect and should carry substantial jail time and criminal penalties

And CPS should seize the child inoculate them
 
Because they are ignorant... like my doctor who never reported an adverse reaction including my daughters even though reporting is a federal mandate.

Right, doctors are ignorant while some Joe Blow is completely knowledgable on the subject… You don't get how ridiculous that sounds?
 
You must have ten foot long arms because I cannot even reach my oil plug not having a hydraulic lift or a crane or something. Hope you have your tetanus up to day because if you scratch yourself on the metal or step on a rusty screw in the parking lot of the recycling center, then you are a goner.

I am up to date on my tetanus. However, it's important to point out that tetanus is primarily a livestock disease. You don't typically get it just from cutting yourself on a rusty nail. You could do that all day around your house and have a low chance of getting tetanus. You get tetanus by cutting yourself on something that was exposed to an animal that had it.
 
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I am up to date on my tetanus. However, it's important to point out that tetanus is primarily a livestock disease. You don't typically get it just from cutting yourself on a rusty nail. You could do that all day around your house and have a low chance of getting tetanus. You get tetanus by cutting yourself on something that was exposed to an animal that had it.

Why is it important to point it out? If you support people having them, you wouldn't want them to say, "Ain't no cows in New York City, so I am safe". The herd might lose its protection from lockjaw. (BTW you can get the infection from dirt and dust getting into a wound)
 
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In support of vaccinations: the medical community. Against vaccinations: non-doctors and a Playboy model.

The side you are on determines whether or not you are anti-science.

You left a few off the list. Medical researchers, Courts, juries, the government, other governments...

What other porn magazines do you subscribe to other than Playboy?
 
The day vaccines are mandatory is the day that the USA is a failed state...

Vaccines FBI and NSA... just calm down.

Only in the minds of the perpetually paranoid. The rest of us will sleep a little easier.
 
Only in the minds of the perpetually paranoid. The rest of us will sleep a little easier.

The fact that you would sleep easier if everyone is forced to vaccinate their kids seems to me to mean you're paranoid.
 
Failure to vaccinate should be considered child neglect and should carry substantial jail time and criminal penalties

And CPS should seize the child inoculate them

Lol! Why is that exactly?
 
I don't care about the wishes of anyone, there are things that need to be done for the good of society, regardless of someone's personal wishes on the subject.

Wow, a conservative that uses the greater good argument? Interesting..
 
The fact that you would sleep easier if everyone is forced to vaccinate their kids seems to me to mean you're paranoid.

Right because it's so paranoid to want to maintain our herd immunity and protect at risk groups (children, the elderly, the immunosuppressed, etc) from harm. Sorry buddy better roll up that sleeve and get ready for the shot.
 
Wow, a conservative that uses the greater good argument? Interesting..

Not all of us are ideological fanatics. Its possible to be conservative and accept a utilitarian argument from time to time. Shocker I know.
 
Right because it's so paranoid to want to maintain our herd immunity and protect at risk groups (children, the elderly, the immunosuppressed, etc) from harm. Sorry buddy better roll up that sleeve and get ready for the shot.

The fact that you are so concerned over this stuff is evidence that you're paranoid. As for me getting a shot, well, good luck with that.
 
The fact that you are so concerned over this stuff is evidence that you're paranoid. As for me getting a shot, well, good luck with that.

Let me guess you're going to give me so faux libertarian gun toting "I have a 9mm with your name on it" spiel right? Mandatory vaccination legislation and regulations are, thankfully, increasingly passing or being enacted in response to this anti-vaccine nonsense. Coming to a town near you! =)
 
Let me guess you're going to give me so faux libertarian gun toting "I have a 9mm with your name on it" spiel right? Mandatory vaccination legislation and regulations are, thankfully, increasingly passing or being enacted in response to this anti-vaccine nonsense. Coming to a town near you! =)

No, I will give you the libertarian spiel that forcing me to get a vaccine is acting aggressively towards my person and violating my rights.
 
No, I will give you the libertarian spiel that forcing me to get a vaccine is acting aggressively towards my person and violating my rights.

I don't believe or care about the non-aggression principle. So roll up that sleeve and suck it up.
 
You left a few off the list. Medical researchers, Courts, juries, the government, other governments...

What other porn magazines do you subscribe to other than Playboy?

You have me confused with someone else.
 
Failure to vaccinate should be considered child neglect and should carry substantial jail time and criminal penalties

And CPS should seize the child inoculate them

Since some children are allergic to certain vaccinations and vaccinations for some kids with immune system disorders would die, tell us exactly how many children you want CPS to murder for your fanatical belief in vaccinations and profit for drug companies from every child? 1,000? 10,000? 100,000?

Would at least then have CPS pay for the funerals?
 
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