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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    It wiped out like a third to a half of the population of Europe. Is.... is that not a sufficiently bad outcome for you!?

    "They didn't have vaccines and look, only an ENORMOUS NUMBER OF PEOPLE DIED!" This is an argument against vaccines!? I feel like I'm taking crazy pills here!
    When did that occur?
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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    When did that occur?
    When did what occur? The plague? The worst was the 14th century.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Which claim?
    Herd immunity inoculation levels. We have places stretching from 80% vaccination rates to greater than 98%. You keep talking about how everyone has to be inoculated to maintain herd immunity. Well we have plenty of places with various demographics, so it seems that those numbers should be out there, yes? What are they? What the measles rate in CO compared to states with higher vaccination rates? How many of those kids die or suffer disabilities?

    Where are your numbers?
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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Uhm, no, they didn't. I am not on the selective service list. That's a fact.

    It's such a fact that I have a conversation an investigator about it every 5 years.
    So what, the government is bugging you about it?

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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    So what, the government is bugging you about it?
    No, I disclose that I didn't sign up at my security re-investigations. Happens every 5 years.


    we're digressing....
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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    When did what occur? The plague? The worst was the 14th century.
    Yes. When did it occur?

    edit: didn't read your whole reply.

    So, was there a treatment for it in the 14th century? Is there a treatment for it now?

    Is there a vaccine for it?
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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    No, I disclose that I didn't sign up at my security re-investigations. Happens every 5 years.


    we're digressing....
    Oh, I was just interested. Seems kind of a weird thing to bring up is all.

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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    I knew you'd say that. also your opinion.

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    You have no idea how I feel about my family. My 19 yr old niece was diagnosed with cancer 1.5 yrs ago, you certainly cant tell me how I felt about it.

    So we will continue to disagree.
    Well, I knew that you would know that I would say that...

    I certainly am not going to tell you how you feel and your feelings are assuredly very strong but I can say with 100% confidence (except for some crazy people) that no parent in the world feels as strongly for any other family member as they do for their own child and it does not take a parent to understand that either. I am sure you care more about your niece than you do some 2nd or 3rd cousin... right? You care more about your niece than your horse... right? It is just like people that don't get married and say that it doesn't matter to actually sign the papers, etc. because their relationship is exactly like a marriage. I have never known one person that, after they did get married, and even some after twenty years or more, that they still felt that way... that their non-marriage relationship was like, or as strong and binding, as their married one. It is a matter of degrees...
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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Oh, I was just interested. Seems kind of a weird thing to bring up is all.
    It was an answer to a claim that the govt could send you off to war at will.
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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Herd immunity inoculation levels. We have places stretching from 80% vaccination rates to greater than 98%. You keep talking about how everyone has to be inoculated to maintain herd immunity. Well we have plenty of places with various demographics, so it seems that those numbers should be out there, yes? What are they? What the measles rate in CO compared to states with higher vaccination rates? How many of those kids die or suffer disabilities?

    Where are your numbers?
    Why are these numbers important? The data is quite clear, more vaccinations = fewer infections, complications, and deaths.
    I think you're exaggerating things. Nobody is saying 100% of the population must be vaccinated. In fact, we often point out that many people can't be vaccinated.

    Higher is better. Period.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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