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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Again with that ridiculous "You support smaller government so ultimately you support dissolution of the United States" rubbish?
    Yes. I know it's ridiculous. The entire point is that this method of argument is ridiculous.

    If I support a smaller government then I support a smaller government. There is still a government so there is still a United States...
    No ****, sherlock.

    And maybe you and Bman can learn from this:

    My support of vaccinations as a pre-requisite for attending public schools doesn't mean I support total government control over your body. Get it? Do you understand?
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Nobody has a right to force anything on people... especially the government. If your child cannot get vaccinated then that is like a kid born that has to walk gingerly with crutches their entire life. Are other children not allowed to run in that kids vicinity? What if they do and knock the kid down and he has that Osteogenesis imperfect (brittle bones) or something else terrible? Life is not fair.
    That is where the herd immunity comes into play. The fewer kids with the ability to carry the disease, the fewer chances of exposure to vulnerable kids. And kids not vaccinated or with any other health problems will always have higher risks and may have to take other measures as well. Like wearing masks.

    Of course life isnt fair. But schools have the responsibility to do the best they can for the largest number of students. Those that can are compelled to, in order to reduce the risks to those than cannot.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    They dont. Suicide is illegal in many states.
    By the early 1990s only two states still listed suicide as a crime, and these have since removed that classification

    Suicide legislation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    The govt can send you to war and dictate just about everything about your body.
    ...and that is unconstitutional. It violates the 5th Amendment...

    And there are laws governing seat belts and safety helmets.
    True and although I find those unconstitutional an adult should be allowed to choose for themselves... not for anybody under 18 though as they are not adults.
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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    It's not likely to cause an epidemic, and even if it does...not much of anything that it is prevented by vaccinations these days is likely to kill many anyway.
    Yeah. Because of the vaccinations.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by Quag View Post
    And complications from surgery.
    Guess only an idiot would have that cancerous tumor removed, after all they might die on the operating table
    Medical mistakes are the #3 leading cause of death now. Only an idiot believes that doctors are gods.

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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    He's basing his entire arguments on 50+ yrs ago and seems to think that 500 child deaths per year from a disease are 'negligible.'
    191.9 million (1964 US population)

    Yes, 500 deaths are actually negligible if you look at it from a pure numerical perspective.
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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by bicycleman View Post
    But why is there a situation, today? If the disease was all but eradicated before 1963, what has prompted the disease to rear its ugly head today where medicine is 10 times better than it ever could have been in 1963? Is it a real epidemic, or a made up one?
    OMG Do you not have any idea what this discussion is about?

    Because in recent years, many parents have not had their kids vaccinated, after decades of much higher vaccination rates. So there are many more kids in society vulnerable to measles.

    Really, you are just wasting everyone's time here.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
    Quote Originally Posted by applejuicefool View Post
    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    My mother's a nurse and thinks this woman is an idiot. (Well, her thoughts anyway)

    There's nothing wrong with having your kids tested for possible allergic reactions to vaccines and their preservatives or being assessed because of other medical conditions. Doctors do support that
    What points does your mother disagrees with in this woman's video?
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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by Tettsuo View Post
    191.9 million (1964 US population)

    Yes, 500 deaths are actually negligible if you look at it from a pure numerical perspective.
    Complications from vaccines are even more negligible if you look at it from a pure numerical perspective.

    Did you ever substantiate the idea that "natural" immunity lasts longer? it's a fast-moving thread, I may have missed it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    The govt can send you to war and dictate just about everything about your body.
    The draft violates the thirteenth amendment.

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