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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Complications from measles.


    Measles is certainly unpleasant, but it can also be quite dangerous.
    As many as one in three people with measles develop complications to include pneumonia, miscarriage, brain inflammation, hospitalization and even death.

    Infants under one year of age, people who have a weakened immune system and non-immune pregnant women’s are at highest risk of severe illness and complications. One out of 1,000 people with measles will develop inflammation of the brain, and about one out of 1,000 will die.
    http://shotofprevention.com/2014/03/...he-vaccinated/
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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by bicycleman View Post
    Yes, but no deaths in the 1930's on up to 1963 when the vaccine was first introduced. Amazing isn't that.
    It is really amazing that just after you posted data showing deaths from measles up to the 60's, now you are trying to ignore the very data you posted, as if you did not post it.
    To think, I grew up in an era when measles was a thing of the past.
    It wasn't, it existed in areas not immunized.
    Has the vaccine caused all these deaths, or was it Bush's fault?
    What deaths? Since we can now treat those with the disease with modern methods they can survive since the outbreaks occur in small numbers that do not overwhelm our health system, but you get more and more folks with ideas in there heads about not needing to immunize their children, you will overwhelm the system. This doesn't even touch on the economic losses associated with the care required because of such a screwed up idea, as if death is the one and only concern. It is turning the argument into an absolute argument.
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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Shingles does not affect children (normally, if ever). It is found in those who have had chicken pox and the virus attacks once more after the immune system degrades with age. It is also not contagious. Shingles doesn't really occur in outbreaks.
    To clarify, a person with shingles can't spread shingles, but can spread the virus that causes chicken pox, so they should keep the sores covered and would be wise to avoid pregnant women, infants, others with compromised immunity, etc.

    I only know this because my mom recently got shingles and I looked it up for her.

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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    To clarify, a person with shingles can't spread shingles, but can spread the virus that causes chicken pox, so they should keep the sores covered and would be wise to avoid pregnant women, infants, others with compromised immunity, etc.

    I only know this because my mom recently got shingles and I looked it up for her.
    True, but chicken pox is rarely deadly and even has very few longlasting complications.
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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by bicycleman View Post
    Yes, but no deaths in the 1930's on up to 1963 when the vaccine was first introduced. Amazing isn't that. To think, I grew up in an era when measles was a thing of the past. Has the vaccine caused all these deaths, or was it Bush's fault?
    There were deaths from measles in the 1930s.

    In fact there was a study in 1930s that found that children hospitalised for measles who were given vitamin A or D or a combination of vitamin A and D did not have a lower death rate than children given the standard treatment.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/arti...01484-0033.pdf
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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    True, but chicken pox is rarely deadly and even has very few longlasting complications.
    Correct, especially for the general population, but it's a large enough risk to pregnant women, infants, and other with compromised immunity that someone with shingles is smart to avoid them for the few days they are contagious.

    Chickenpox and pregnancy: What are the concerns? - Mayo Clinic

    If you're pregnant and develop chickenpox (varicella) — a highly contagious viral illness that causes an itchy rash — you and your baby face serious health risks.

    If you develop chickenpox during pregnancy, you're at high risk of potentially serious complications — such as pneumonia.

    For your baby, the risks depend on the timing. If chickenpox develops during the first 20 weeks of pregnancy — particularly between weeks 8 and 20 — the baby faces a slight risk of a rare group of serious birth defects known as congenital varicella syndrome. A baby who has congenital varicella syndrome might develop:

    Scars on the skin
    Low birth weight
    Problems affecting the arms, legs, brain and eyes

    If chickenpox develops during the few days before you deliver, the baby might be born with a potentially life-threatening infection.

    If you're exposed to chickenpox during pregnancy and you're not immune, contact your health care provider immediately.
    Also, too - http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-c...s/con-20019025
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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    True, but chicken pox is rarely deadly and even has very few longlasting complications.
    And the vaccine is very quick and has a lot fewer complications. Why not get the vaccine?

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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]



    Does a pretty good job of detailing the main concerns of anti-vaccine parents.
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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    You know you're a 90s kid if your vaccines were mandatory and nobody in your school died from 19th century diseases.
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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by paddymcdougall View Post
    And the vaccine is very quick and has a lot fewer complications. Why not get the vaccine?
    Because some people do not agree with putting foreign substances into their body, and that should be their choice, especially for something like chicken pox.

    And shingles doesn't really work like chicken pox, despite being the same virus. Shingles is only contagious through contact with the sores/bumps of an affected person, kind of like after getting the smallpox vaccine. The sore that develops is contagious which is why we had to keep ours covered til it went away and the band aids went into a special trash an.
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