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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by minnie616 View Post
    While chicken pox very seldom has complications that would lead to death, the viris lies domate and can reappear in later years as very painful/itchy disease that sometimes settles in the eye and can cause vision loss and others sometimes have severe pain lasting for years as a side effect of shingles.



    Not just a painful rash: Shingles can damage the eyes | PennLive.com
    See what I mean.

    Just like measles, chicken pox will soon be seen as a serious disease that all must be vaccinated for.

    The fear is unfounded.
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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Based on an incorrect assumption that you have a right to attend public school while endangering others with your choice.
    That anyone is endangering anyone is an incorrect assumption. You seem to confuse possibility and certainty.
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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by paddymcdougall View Post
    Welcome to this site, Troll.
    You know, I only read the posts, who quote me. I don't bother to read the other 500 posts that precede mine. What I am making is a simple request. When you use an acronym, please bother to define in parentheses what it means out of courtesy to other posters.

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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by paddymcdougall View Post
    You want to have the benefits of society -i.e. public school - you follow the rules - vaccinate your kids.
    False premise. Attendance at school is required.

    Nothing in the constitution about public schools, as far as I know. I happen to think they are very important and part of what makes our country great; but they didn't really become big until the 1800s.
    It doesn't need to be in the constitution, so long as all the acts passed regarding education are in keeping with the constitution. Which they have been.

    Mississippi has a 99+% vaccination rate for kids in kindergarten because they only allow medical exemptions, and few of those. Parents who don't like it can home school or go to private schools.
    In keeping with how laws work in the states, Constitutionally speaking, Mississippi would either have to provide another option or waive the requirement to attend school.
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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by Lakryte View Post
    This link might help.
    I shouldn't have to Google it. If you insist on the use of acronyms, try spelling out the acronym as a courtesy to other posters, who don't want to read 500 or so other posts preceding this discussion.

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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    And then he proceeds to list deaths caused by measles....DERP!
    Yes, but no deaths in the 1930's on up to 1963 when the vaccine was first introduced. Amazing isn't that. To think, I grew up in an era when measles was a thing of the past. Has the vaccine caused all these deaths, or was it Bush's fault?

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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    Just sayin' Vectors or Victims? Docs Slam Rumors That Migrants Carry Disease - NBC News

    And there are a lot of California communities with far lower vaccination rates than the national average and it's in these communities where the outbreaks are happening....
    It is not a "slam" to argue it MIGHT have been something else and that SOME Central American countries report higher vaccination rates.

    I would venture a guess that the vaccination rate in the abject poor who flee Mexico for the US is someone lower than Mexico as a whole. It would be nice to know for sure but that would require controlling the border...
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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by bicycleman View Post
    I shouldn't have to Google it. If you insist on the use of acronyms, try spelling out the acronym as a courtesy to other posters, who don't want to read 500 or so other posts preceding this discussion.
    Oh please. If you don't know common acronyms, just look them up. You shouldn't expect people to hold your hand and coddle you.
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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Are you guys that are for vaccines, for all of the mandated vaccines?

    For example - HepB and tetanus
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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by bicycleman View Post
    Yes, but no deaths in the 1930's on up to 1963 when the vaccine was first introduced. Amazing isn't that. To think, I grew up in an era when measles was a thing of the past. Has the vaccine caused all these deaths, or was it Bush's fault?
    You have been shown that this is untrue why do you keep repeating a lie?
    In 1920, the United States had 469,924 measles cases and 7,575 deaths due to measles. From 1958 to 1962, the United States had an average of 503,282 cases and 432 deaths each year. (Measles reporting began in 1912; prior to this time, no statistics are available.) In large cities, epidemics often occurred every two to five years.
    https://science.education.nih.gov/su...database.htm#6

    Globally it is still killing people!
    Measles is one of the leading causes of death among young children even though a safe and cost-effective vaccine is available.
    In 2013, there were 145 700 measles deaths globally – about 400 deaths every day or 16 deaths every hour.
    Measles vaccination resulted in a 75% drop in measles deaths between 2000 and 2013 worldwide.
    In 2013, about 84% of the world's children received one dose of measles vaccine by their first birthday through routine health services – up from 73% in 2000.
    During 2000-2013, measles vaccination prevented an estimated 15.6 million deaths making measles vaccine one of the best buys in public health.
    WHO | Measles
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