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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by paddymcdougall View Post
    BM, if you don't care to read the research and the reporting on the virulence of the diseases and how many people died from it - even if YOU didn't know anyone - that's your problem. Most of us prefer to do the research.
    As I have mentioned before, I lived during that era and remember what happened. The only "research" you have is what you have read out of a book or on the Internet, research, tainted at best, all to push someone's plan for how they want society to march in lockstep.

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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Of course it is, by definition it is.

    The conscious decision to fail to take proper care in doing something.
    It is no more negligent than going out with the flu and some old person getting it and dying. Stop being dramatic.
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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by bicycleman View Post
    As I have mentioned before, I lived during that era and remember what happened. The only "research" you have is what you have read out of a book or on the Internet, research, tainted at best, all to push someone's plan for how they want society to march in lockstep.
    This is stupid, we have examples from just last year in Ohio with the Amish breakout, many had to be hospitalized.
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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    It is no more negligent than going out with the flu and some old person getting it and dying. Stop being dramatic.
    We're not talking about JUST measles immunization, my argument is that NOT having a child immunized is intentional neglect, it is consciously not taking proper care.

    I fail to see how causing a death by spreading a flu virus is viewed so flippantly....but then we must have very different views on life and responsibility.
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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Got any stats on that? 65 infant deaths/yr to measles 50 yrs ago?
    It's an estimate. CDC data shows around 400 cases per year leading up to the vaccine. Estimated about 16-17% of those being infant deaths based on data from 1990, when 89 people died.

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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    There is almost no risk of side effects. They almost never happen.
    Almost never is not never, and it would be greater than the risk to me as being around someone who was never vaccinated as have been vaccinated more than once for MMR.

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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    No, but you can protect them better if everyone else is vaccinated and the disease pretty much disappears from the country.

    Which is what had happened.
    Yes, I think everybody knows that.

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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by bicycleman View Post
    Inaccurate view of history? I lived during the era. I don't have to read science fiction on the Internet.
    So did I. My mother was an RN...ob/gyn...at the time and had to take off work when her daughter...me...had measles. Then mumps, then German measles, then chicken pox....no vaccines. Her grasp of the realities...and her memory...are just fine. As is mine.

    Now....where's a source for your claim about 65 infants/yr?
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    Yes, I think everybody knows that.
    bobbed and weaved to get out of your original statements.

    sure.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
    Quote Originally Posted by applejuicefool View Post
    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    It's an estimate. CDC data shows around 400 cases per year leading up to the vaccine. Estimated about 16-17% of those being infant deaths based on data from 1990, when 89 people died.
    You could have linked to it.

    400 cases per year? Measles? That was in my community alone! Now...link?
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
    Quote Originally Posted by applejuicefool View Post
    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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