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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    I am not sure... I agree that I never said I wanted no government but I don't agree that my extrapolation from banning kids from schools (which Gina did state) to banning them from the DMV or post office is invalid nor is the further push to sterilize certain people because the argument was "for the greater good of society".
    Then I don't agree with you. I don't agree that your argument doesn't lead to anarchy.
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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by EMNofSeattle View Post
    Why? A teacher is paid $40,000 a year plus benefits, the vaccine cost 10 bucks. It makes more sense for the state to pay for one and not the other
    I am not in favour of mandatory vaccinations. That should never be legal. If the state wants to pay for them though that is great.
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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

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    Then I don't agree with you. I don't agree that your argument doesn't lead to anarchy.
    I don't see how you make that leap, in all honesty.
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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    I am not in favour of mandatory vaccinations. That should never be legal. If the state wants to pay for them though that is great.
    They wouldnt be mandatory. It would not be illegal to not vaccinate your child. But they would not be admitted to school. And the school would not be (has not been) obligated to make other arrangements for your child. Private schools have more license to do this but public schools have been requiring it as well before allowing registration of a child.

    But as I wrote, there are challenges to this in the courts now...and probably more coming. But it will be about allowing unvaccinated kids into schools, not providing private teachers
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    I am not in favour of mandatory vaccinations. That should never be legal. If the state wants to pay for them though that is great.
    So the hell what? We shouldn't base public health decisions on what you are in favor of.

    We need to realize, that the actual inconvenience of being vaccinated is so low, and the benefits so great, opting out should not be an option. Okay you miss a flu shot no big deal because scientifically speaking, flu doesn't kill people and the flu shot is ineffective, The rest of the vaccine should be completely mandatory. I don't care, if you believe that tomato paste and herbal supplements will keep you healthy, don't care if you think Jesus is going to cure you


    And I think, that is an unvaccinated person comes in contact with someone who cannot be vaccinated for a legitimate medical cause, and they get sick and die that unvaccinated person should be charged with manslaughter
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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    I am not in favour of mandatory vaccinations. That should never be legal. If the state wants to pay for them though that is great.
    If they were free...they could force you to vaccinate your kid? (if a doctor felt it was safe) That would be ok?


    That would not be ok with me.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    I don't see how you make that leap, in all honesty.
    If the government can't require vaccines for the greater good, why can it have speed limits? What about health codes? If the government can't protect children from deadly illnesses, why can it protect them from terrorism?

    Slippery slope is ****ing stupid.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by EMNofSeattle View Post
    So the hell what? We shouldn't base public health decisions on what you are in favor of.

    We need to realize, that the actual inconvenience of being vaccinated is so low, and the benefits so great, opting out should not be an option. Okay you miss a flu shot no big deal because scientifically speaking, flu doesn't kill people and the flu shot is ineffective, The rest of the vaccine should be completely mandatory. I don't care, if you believe that tomato paste and herbal supplements will keep you healthy, don't care if you think Jesus is going to cure you


    And I think, that is an unvaccinated person comes in contact with someone who cannot be vaccinated for a legitimate medical cause, and they get sick and die that unvaccinated person should be charged with manslaughter
    I don't care that you don't care in all honesty...

    I am in favour of the public vaccinating. It should not be mandatory though...

    Stop being dramatic. **** happens. If you can't get vaccinated and contact the disease then that is how life goes. There are bubble kids that can't go out because they have almost no immune system. Should everybody be mandated a flu shot too? How about we mandate we all wear HazCham suits everywhere too...
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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    If the government can't require vaccines for the greater good, why can it have speed limits? What about health codes? If the government can't protect children from deadly illnesses, why can it protect them from terrorism?

    Slippery slope is ****ing stupid.
    You are the one taking it down the slippery slope... government should not be able to force anything on a person. Unless a person intentionally targets a person or is intentionally negligent with their disease they have done nothing wrong and first they would have to even know they had the disease. Most spread it prior to even knowing the have it.
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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    government should not be able to force anything on a person.
    Product safety testing. Speed limits. Pilot recurrent training. Food handling regulations. Nuclear power plant safety standards.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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