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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Unfortunately, you were probably already exposed before you got the shots. It takes time to confer full immunity...approx. 2 weeks.

    That does suck and that scenario is what adds to alot of ignorance and fear about vaccines.
    IT was ten years ago and I can't remember if it was that week or two weeks... the timing was close enough that it was not coincidental.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Declan View Post
    Abstinence.
    LOLOLOL

    Yes, we'd all be better off if some people completely abstained from contact with the entire rest of the population.

    Let us know when you have an answer for the rest of the planet.
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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Lursa, you shouldn't make opened arguments and then start applying limitations on them that can't logically exist. For example, the patriot act does fall under your reasoning.

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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Personally, I think anyone that doesn't get their kids vaccinated is a moron. I think we all know the autism link was thoroughly debunked. My issue, though, is personal sovereignty. I'm sure everyone here whose main argument is that you are putting others at risk would be mostly the same folks yelling about personal sovereignty in another.

    While, again, I personally think it's stupid not to vaccinate, I don't agree with the govt being able to mandate it.
    Good post and good to say you mac...
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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I think this whole thing is nothing but paranoia and ignorance. Places like Colorado had an 80% vaccination rate for years, and the bodies of kids are not building up in the street. People should get vaccines, but we're not at some point at which now everyone is susceptible to death, herd immunity is still pretty well working. There will be some non-zero cases of measles and such though, but it doesn't mean we're all going to die.

    Now it's vaccines, before it was ebola, it seems like there's always some manufactured crisis we have to freak out about but they never really seem to come to anything. No one died from Ebola, and we're not going to go through a major measles pandemic.
    Not sure you understand how herd immunity works then...because when we see more and more unvaccinated people and the disease starts circulating......
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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    I am against mandatory vaccinations. IF schools want to ban those children then they need to supply teachers to come to the houses of banned children so that they can teach them.
    Why? If a person wants to use public services, then they need to abide by the rules to use that service.
    I don't attack my constituents. Bob is my constituent now.
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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gina View Post
    Why? If a person wants to use public services, then they need to abide by the rules to use that service.
    That doesn't open up Pandora's Box or anything... mandatory sterilization of anybody with an IQ under 90 and half of the people living in the South is best for our nation too, does that work for you?
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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    My good friend whose 4 year old son has leukemia posted this article on her prayers for Zac blog.


    Grace: For kids with cancer, other families’ vaccination choices can mean ‘life or death’

    By Erin Grace / World-Herald columnist | Posted 17 hours ago

    <SNIP>

    Sammy is 7 and has spent half his life battling something called neuroblastoma. He’s had so many chemotherapy treatments that his mother has lost count. The treatments have knocked out his immune system, making Sammy at risk for an old-fashioned disease that has resurfaced — measles.

    Sammy is too sick to get a second measles shot. The first vaccine he got, at 12 months, is no longer good after all the chemo.
    So Sammy, who has beautiful blue-gray eyes like his mom and an affinity for the iPad like just about every other child, is a human sponge for germs. A cold can be serious. The measles could be a killer.

    So Sammy’s health, fragile as it is, depends on the health of the rest of us — the herd.

    If the herd stays vaccinated, then infants and the weak among us have a much better chance of staying measles-free.


    “It only takes one time to be exposed,” Erin Nahorny said at Children’s, where Sammy was receiving a blood transfusion. “It’s like life or death to us.”

    Contact the writer: erin.grace@owh.com, twitter.com/ErinGraceOWH
    Grace: For kids with cancer, other families
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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    That doesn't open up Pandora's Box or anything... mandatory sterilization of anybody with an IQ under 90 and half of the people living in the South is best for our nation too, does that work for you?
    Yikes! That was extreme. Mandatory vaccinations is not comparable to eugenics.
    I don't attack my constituents. Bob is my constituent now.
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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gina View Post
    Why? If a person wants to use public services, then they need to abide by the rules to use that service.
    That logic is a pandora's box. Where are it's limits?
    ”People willing to trade their freedom for temporary security deserve neither and will lose both.” --- Ben Franklin

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