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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    And we are talking about best practices for keeping kids safe.

    Everyone is at risk in a car. So we shouldnt bother wearing seat belts? Just not put kids in safety seats because hey, they could die in a wreck anyway.

    Your argument fails. I havent made any black and white statements regarding vaccines and their usage....and there are no foolproof methods to prevent disease. What we are discussing here are reasonable precautions for public health.

    And if you choose to place others at additional risk, then the school/govt has the right to decide your kids can stay home and be homeschooled.
    I never argued to not get vaccinated so I have no idea why you keep acting like I have. The government, with all its power, can do a lot of things that are immoral and illogical. So what?

    ...and you didn't even bother to address the link.
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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by bicycleman View Post
    What is it about measles vaccines? Vaccines for measles didn't exist when I was going to school. You got the disease, of which there were 2 versions, one lasted for 3 days, and the other, the bad one lasted for about 2 weeks. Then you were immune for life. Our parents and grandparents had all had measles, and nobody worried about it, nor did anybody ever die of it. What has happened? Was measles so eradicated that no one now has any immunity toward it?
    Infants died, kids died, the elderly died, people with compromised immune systems died. We did worry about it. Pregnant women had to be very very careful as well not to get it.

    You have a very incomplete and inaccurate view of history.

    And btw, you may not still be immune.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    I never argued to not get vaccinated so I have no idea why you keep acting like I have. The government, with all its power, can do a lot of things that are immoral and illogical. So what?

    ...and you didn't even bother to address the link.
    Didnt read the link.

    We werent discussing vaccines good/bad. We were discussing risks. And that it's factual that an unvaccinated child attending school has a greater chance of infecting others. And that unvaccinated kids in school (that are unable to be vaccinated and may be undergoing other protocols) are at more risk from such kids. Not to mention that any kid in the school can take it home to infant siblings.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
    Quote Originally Posted by applejuicefool View Post
    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    No they arent irrelevant when discussing medical privacy.

    We use the public interest to override Constitutional rights all the time, including the first Amendment. Medical privacy is not inalienable nor inviolable.

    That would be like saying...either we have the First Amendment, or we dont. And yet...there are laws that supersede that right...for the public good.
    The greater good, eh? So what do you think of that patriot act? The government violating your rights for the greater good is a real good idea right there.

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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    The greater good, eh? So what do you think of that patriot act? The government violating your rights for the greater good is a real good idea right there.
    Totally against the PA, goes way too far. It's about balancing things, something that you've demonstrated no knowledge of.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Totally against the PA, goes way too far. It's about balancing things, something that you've demonstrated no knowledge of.
    Balance? Ok, so how does that work exactly? I want to know exactly how that works and how the government protects your rights when they are in fact not doing it.

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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Didnt read the link.

    We werent discussing vaccines good/bad. We were discussing risks. And that it's factual that an unvaccinated child attending school has a greater chance of infecting others. And that unvaccinated kids in school (that are unable to be vaccinated and may be undergoing other protocols) are at more risk from such kids. Not to mention that any kid in the school can take it home to infant siblings.
    No. I was never talking about risks of not being vaccinated. I was talking about mandatory vaccinations. Talk about risks with somebody else.
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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    No. I was never talking about risks of not being vaccinated. I was talking about mandatory vaccinations. Talk about risks with somebody else.
    Well I did address some questions to you about unvaccinated children being able to attend school...should they be? And you said yes. That doesnt mean that they must by law have the vaccinations, just that the school has the right to try and minimize the risks to others.

    That was my intent with my questions. You dont have to address them, we both live in free countries.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    No. I was never talking about risks of not being vaccinated. I was talking about mandatory vaccinations. Talk about risks with somebody else.
    Life is a risky thing, so lets undermine people's rights to combat it! Got to love the safety idiocy.

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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Balance? Ok, so how does that work exactly? I want to know exactly how that works and how the government protects your rights when they are in fact not doing it.
    LOL thanks for proving my point and it's not my job to educate you. THat ship has long sailed and some school failed you somewhere along the line.

    It's just something I keep in mind if I read your posts. Which I often dont, lol.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
    Quote Originally Posted by applejuicefool View Post
    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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