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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by Quag View Post
    Problem is people do die from it

    Measles - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Then we have complications which compound the problem

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    Here's your problem. You're using Wikipedia, not a reliable resource.

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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    [QUOTE=Deuce;1064267545]Most people who were vaccinated are immune to it.

    I am immune and vaccines didn't exist then. There were only vaccines for polio, diphtheria, typhoid fever, and that was it. Whooping cough was all but eradicated back then.

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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Back to that 'greater good' thing tho, abortion has no negative affects on society (that I'm aware of) yet epidemics do. Aside from body count, the effects on the economy and even national security are profound.
    You mean negative effects. The negative effects are that it murders a part of society, babies that could grow up to do great things, or mundane things, but they are not given that opportunity. Instead, they are flushed down the komode.

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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    It is 100% ineffective really...
    False.
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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by Quag View Post
    There are many flu strains they take an educated guess on what will be the most likely ones any given flu season and the shots are for that. Sometimes they are close sometimes they are way off.
    Sure. That does not mean flu shots are 95% ineffective. Nor does it change the source listed said 60% effective, which is not equivalent to saying 95% ineffective. This is not hard math folks.
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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    That's not accurate for all flue vaccinations NOR is that all that is in a vaccine.
    It is accurate for all flu vaccinations injected via a shot. I didn't say dead viruses were all that is in a vaccine, so that's an irrelevant comment.
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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by Tettsuo View Post
    Hmmm, so you can have all of the symptoms of the flu, but not actually have the flu?
    Yes.

    If so, then what's causing those reactions?

    Most of the people who are questioning vaccines, question the ingredients contained within the vaccine and their efficacy. As do I.
    The body's immune system senses the presence of the dead virus and begins an immune response. It is this response that builds immunity to the virus, and some people may exhibit mild flu-like symptoms as a result. A flu infection requires a live virus replicating inside your body and damaging healthy cells. The flu vaccine injects a dead virus that does not replicate inside your body or damage any cells. Thus the vaccine does not cause a flu infection.

    Again, this really is not hard to understand.
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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Its a legit question and if you are trying to make a point about the efficacy of the vaccine, then you should be able to understand who is getting sick today. People ARE getting the measles. WHO is being impacted? Is it people previously vaccinated? I keep hearing everyone freaking out about how others should get vaccinated so they dont put them or their kids at risk. Well...if the vaccine is the answer what is the problem?

    I think people SHOULD get vaccinated. I just think that if there is this much concern about an outbreak or spread, something isnt altogether intact with regard to the measure of prevention.
    I took the intent of your post as trolling- I was wrong. Please accept my apology.
    From what I understand certain regions in the US have a high rate of non vaccinations.When an outbreak occurs in these areas I am sure it will make data available as to who was impacted- died- from the outbreak.
    As to who has been impacted - non vaccinated- those that had the vaccination decades ago - I have not read or found information on the stats.
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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by bicycleman View Post
    Really? Were you there back then, or it is something you read on the Internet?
    I was there back then.

    My aunt was a Frontier nurse/midwife who rode horseback to homes and one /two room schools in the hills of Kentucky during the 1940s and 50s . She gave vaccinations to the school children to help protect them.

    When I was a child I had a reaction to my smallpox vaccination. I had a fever, and my arm was hot, red and swollen where the injection was given.

    My mom was concerned and my aunt told her she understood the concern but if I had contracted smallpox my whole body would have those very painful lumps all over it.

    My parents protected me by having me get that vaccine and the others available.

    When I had my 4 children they did not need the smallpox vaccination since smallpox was erraticated.
    But I made sure my children had all their vaccinations.

    And my grandchildren have/will get their vaccinations too.
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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Its a legit question and if you are trying to make a point about the efficacy of the vaccine, then you should be able to understand who is getting sick today. People ARE getting the measles. WHO is being impacted? Is it people previously vaccinated? I keep hearing everyone freaking out about how others should get vaccinated so they dont put them or their kids at risk. Well...if the vaccine is the answer what is the problem?

    I think people SHOULD get vaccinated. I just think that if there is this much concern about an outbreak or spread, something isnt altogether intact with regard to the measure of prevention.
    Found some other info.
    Vaccination Rates for US Children Remain Generally High, But Measles Outbreaks Underscore Shortfalls in Some Regions | news@JAMA
    Schuchat noted that in 15 states, measles, mumps, and rubella (MMR) coverage is below 90%, a level that is a “warning sign that outbreaks may occur or that the state as a whole may be becoming vulnerable,” she said. The survey results also highlight the need to improve vaccination rates during the second year of life.

    The program was created in response to a resurgence of measles during 1989 to 1991, when 55 000 cases of measles and 123 measles-associated deaths were reported in the United States. Unvaccinated preschool-age children, many from low-income families, were disproportionately affected. According to Schuchat, such children were not being vaccinated because their families didn’t have insurance and their doctors were referring them to health department clinics to get their shots.
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