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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    You know as well as I that it cannot be answered by myself.
    Why post the question?
    Its a legit question and if you are trying to make a point about the efficacy of the vaccine, then you should be able to understand who is getting sick today. People ARE getting the measles. WHO is being impacted? Is it people previously vaccinated? I keep hearing everyone freaking out about how others should get vaccinated so they dont put them or their kids at risk. Well...if the vaccine is the answer what is the problem?

    I think people SHOULD get vaccinated. I just think that if there is this much concern about an outbreak or spread, something isnt altogether intact with regard to the measure of prevention.

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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Second link:

    Vaccines and Autism: A Tale of Shifting Hypotheses

    Did you actually read the links? It seems like you didn't read them and just assumed they didn't address the studies by Wakefield.
    I see, you didn't understand what I was asking.

    I don't care about Andrew Wakefield. So your continued desire to discredit him means nothing to me.

    Your article is addressing HOW Wakefield conducted his research (mostly), but that does NOT mean there is no connection between gut issues and autism. Also, vaccines do contain antibiotics (residual). If you understand anything about the gut, you'll know that antibiotics (and many other environmental toxins) wipe out all bacteria, good and bad. That's the problem. We NEED the good bacteria in our guts! This why I was specific in my response.

    Stop doing what? Questioning that idea that autism and gut issues are link? Because that's what I'm doing.
    That was what I was addressing and what I ask for the link on.
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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by minnie616 View Post
    Thank you!

    And from your link:

    Still, other researchers say itís too early to reject the idea that intestinal bacteria play a role in autism.
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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by Tettsuo View Post
    I see, you didn't understand what I was asking.
    Oh no, I definitely did. You seem to have a reading comprehension problem. Wakefield's research was discredited. Hell, the findings in his research couldn't be reproduced. You now resorting to trying to argue that just because Wakefield's research was discredited doesn't mean that his claims were discredited is an exercise in semantics.
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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Second link:

    Vaccines and Autism: A Tale of Shifting Hypotheses



    Did you actually read the links? It seems like you didn't read them and just assumed they didn't address the studies by Wakefield.
    LOL... re-read what I posted. Clearly, you're not actually paying attention.

    Matter of fact, don't. Minnie616 gave me what I was looking for.
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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    The cost of vaccinating everyone in the USA for measles is $20,000,000,000.00. Do the math.

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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    It is TOTALLY irresponsible for people to drive anywhere unless absolutely necessary and that government does not STRICTLY prohibit driving unless it can be shown the travel is a necessity for life.

    There are over 5 MILLION auto accidents a year in the USA, hundreds of thousands of people injured, and over 30,000 people die each year in auto accidents.

    HOW EVIL can people be to show TOTAL disregard for the safety of others by needlessly driving?

    The fact is the earth is round. The sky is blue. And you won't kill anyone with your automobile if you aren't driving it.

    Anyone who drives their child anywhere unless absolutely necessary should be charged with child abuse and their child(ren) taken away.

    That's how the logic works, right?

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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    The cost of vaccinating everyone in the USA for measles is $20,000,000,000.00. Do the math.
    For one? Or For every vaccine? Additionally...what is the cost of caring for everyone with polio, smallpox, and so on?
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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by stonewall50 View Post
    For one? Or For every vaccine? Additionally...what is the cost of caring for everyone with polio, smallpox, and so on?
    You do know that you can get the polio virus and get over it with no lasting or even traumatic effects, right? In fact, the vast majority of people that contracted polio didn't really have any issues getting over the disease, much like measles (specifically in developed countries).
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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    It is TOTALLY irresponsible for people to drive anywhere unless absolutely necessary and that government does not STRICTLY prohibit driving unless it can be shown the travel is a necessity for life.

    There are over 5 MILLION auto accidents a year in the USA, hundreds of thousands of people injured, and over 30,000 people die each year in auto accidents.

    HOW EVIL can people be to show TOTAL disregard for the safety of others by needlessly driving?

    The fact is the earth is round. The sky is blue. And you won't kill anyone with your automobile if you aren't driving it.

    Anyone who drives their child anywhere unless absolutely necessary should be charged with child abuse and their child(ren) taken away.

    That's how the logic works, right?
    The benefits of driving far, far outweigh the costs. Notice, though, that it is illegal to drive in an unsafe way; too fast, while drunk, or without a seatbelt.

    The benefit of not vaccinating your child? You don't have to take the one-in-millions chance that they will be allergic to one of the components (I bet you are happy about them eating nuts, though). The costs are currently visible in California. It's not even a close comparison.
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