It's impossible to really have a proper adult conversation about this issue because the media has already sensationalized it, and their sycophants are already dividing people into the camps of column A and column B.
My children weren't vaccinated and neither was I. I'm not part of a "movement". I don't get together with other "anti-vaccers" (such a stupid term) to plot against the system and convince people to not vaccinate.
If suddenly there is a true epidemic of a virulent plague and millions of people start dying, I'd probably consider getting vaccinated against that disease. Until then, the extreme views on vaccination, including taking away a person's right to choose, are totally hyperbolic. And when it comes to things like the flu vaccine, I don't trust corporate interests.
The root of epidemic disease is unhealthy populations with inadequate resources. Look at the average American diet and waistline and tell me that we have healthy immune systems. There's high fructose corn syrup in everything, artificial ingredients that disrupt our hormone systems, and toxins. We eat calorie rich food that is lacking in nutrients -- most Americans are actually starving, by definition. Most Americans get only 2 weeks of vacation per year, if that, so our stress levels are through the roof.
We wiped out disease in the 20th century because we learned about epidemiology, improved our standard of living, had supportive labor laws, and grew our health systems. Yes, vaccines played a role in that. Now the pendulum is swinging the other way because the church of money has corrupted our food systems, our health care, basically every way of life that would otherwise serve as prevention for disease.
Vaccines are a patch for a symptom that is part of a MUCH bigger problem. Nature will always adapt in order to cull the weak.
Last edited by Northern Light; 02-02-15 at 02:11 PM.
Flu vaccines worthless and dangerous | Vaccination Information Network
The CDC put out an advisory this year that 52% of the cases of influenza this year are from a strain that has 'drifted' from the vaccine strain so greatly that it will have no impact on recipients. The current years vaccines are ALWAYS made from the last years strain, meaning the efficacy is always questionable, depending on the level of mutation in the virus.
Im not anti-vaccine in general but I havent had a flu-shot in over 20 years. Ive had flu like symptoms a few times and my body has managed to fight them off.
Now...if they ever develop a vaccine against summer colds? I'm all over that!
If I can find it, I'll post it.
Anecdotally, most people I know who've had the flu, only suffered from it once. But, most of my friends would never take a flu vaccine anyway.
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And by the way, the accuracy and truthfulness of the article you listed has been thoroughly disputed. Addtionally, the article cited in that source was in an opinion column, and is not actually a peer-reviewed study. Peter Doshi, the man behind the cited article, is neither a virologist nor a epidemiologist, but rather an anthropologist who completed a fellowship in comparative effectiveness research at Johns Hopkins. He conducted no research about influenza or vaccines at Johns Hopkins, nor does he speak for the university on that subject.
More bunk. Surprise surprise.
Last edited by Lakryte; 02-02-15 at 03:02 PM.
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