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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Heard on the radio last week that this has been the most dangerous flu season in years. The stat was that 198 of 100,000 people were hospitalized with it. That is .2% of the population. On top of that, this year's vaccinewas a bit over 25% effective. So that means it would only have prevented hospitalization of .05% of the population. The treatment for those hospitalized consists of Tamiflu and IV fluids as the worst symptom of severe flu is dehydration, which can be avoided by drinking water and sport drinks. And to avoid this evidently horrific run on hospitals, we should all get a vaccine that costs $25 a pop, for a total of $7.5 BILLION a year to big pharm. This isn't the Plague people, it's what amounts to nature's weight loss program. A couple of days off work (for those of you who can do that, last time I had the flu I was still working, but at the time I worked alone), you lose a couple of pounds, take some OTC meds like Imodium and Tylenol, and end up detoxed after a couple of days. I don't see the emergency for most people.

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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Awesome, totally scientific reasoning there.
    Just a stat. Don't make too much of it although it does go to show that they do not practice what they preach.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Why, because the antivaccine movement needs a playboy model to get out your message while I only need the scientific community? Get over it -- idiots are behind the anti-vaccine movement, and you're lining up behind them.
    I am not anti-vaccine. We got my daughter vaccines. Keep making that silly comment though...

    No. You said a disease that nearly wiped out the human race. Two of those were around 100 million people and that is hardly close to your assertion. Retract it and gain some mana.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lakryte View Post
    There are a limited number of Flu Shots each year--it isn't possible for everyone to take them. Those who should take flu shots are those at most risk of having serious complications (the elderly) or infecting others that are at risk. That some doctors refrain from taking the shots so others in greater need of them get them doesn't make flu shots bad.
    Flu shots are a waste of time and money for 95% of the population.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    How grotesque and murderous.
    It is not murderous as I am not intentionally killing anybody... I think forcing injections on people is grotesque and for those that die you are actually murdering them knowing that some will die and doing it anyway. You should look yourself in the mirror and repeat... I don't mind intentionally killing innocent children.

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    As natural as the plague was. You are unaware of so much. Herd immunity is an important facet of modern disease control. Read up on it.
    I am aware of the whole argument on both sides... get over yourself because it is ****ing retarded. Read my comment again for comprehension.
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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by minnie616 View Post
    Measles is very contagious ( among the most contagious and has one of highest death rates of all childhood diseases ) and the vaccine which is more than 99 percent effective is not given until the child is a year old.
    OK. Thank you.
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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by JANFU View Post
    The uproar over vaccinations being connected to Autism was bunk. The Brit MD who was involved in creating this crap is no longer permitted to practice.
    Agree, the additive that some attributed to Autism was I think is called Thimerosal.

    I dont think its being used anymore exept in some Flu vaccines.

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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Just a stat. Don't make too much of it although it does go to show that they do not practice what they preach.
    It goes to show you go after the stupidest reasons for casting doubt on something, which as you've already admitted you have no reason for doing anyway.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    I am not anti-vaccine. We got my daughter vaccines. Keep making that silly comment though...
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    My girls are not vaccinated though I would like them to be, even though one had that adverse reaction but my ex-wife is 100% opposed to them and since we are divorced with Court Orders I am stuck. That said, my girls are fine and there is a pretty large population here that is not vaccinated.
    So which Bodhisattva am I talking to today?

    edit: okay, I screwed up there with that one daughter. My bad on that. Your position is still super stupid, though.
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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    It goes to show you go after the stupidest reasons for casting doubt on something, which as you've already admitted you have no reason for doing anyway.
    I do have a reason... my daughter almost died from the MMR vaccine. Child ADHD and SIDS rates are high and even increasing... children die and have serious reactions to vaccines including brain seizures.

    So which Bodhisattva am I talking to today?
    The same never changing one... My oldest got her vaccinations until her 1 year-old MMR vaccine and had an adverse reaction, as I have stated. My youngest is not vaccinated at all, as I have stated.

    At this point, according to the science, kids should get vaccinated. Test your kid for allergies first though. Vaccines should NEVER be mandatory though.

    EDIT: Fine. Accepted. And No... it isn't.
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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Agree, the additive that some attributed to Autism was I think is called Thimerosal.

    I dont think its being used anymore exept in some Flu vaccines.
    Yes, parents didn't like the idea of shooting their kids up with mercury, no matter how small the dose. The FDA, CDC, NIH, HSRA and American Academy of Pediatrics eventually agreed that injecting babies with mercury maybe it wasn't such a great idea, and this eventually forced the manufacturers to eliminate thimerosal from vaccines.

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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    edit: okay, I screwed up there with that one daughter. My bad on that. Your position is still super stupid, though.
    I'm a sucker for an admission of error at DP. It's so rare.
    If you claim sexual harassment to be wrong, yet you defend anyone on your side for any reason,
    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    The elderly? The shots effectiveness wears off after time... I would rather let the fittest survive than protecting a fat slob of a herd. Have you looked at the people lately?

    Given your lack of compassion, I am glad you are not the one deciding vaccination policy for the nation.

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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by tech30528 View Post
    Heard on the radio last week that this has been the most dangerous flu season in years. The stat was that 198 of 100,000 people were hospitalized with it. That is .2% of the population. On top of that, this year's vaccinewas a bit over 25% effective. So that means it would only have prevented hospitalization of .05% of the population. The treatment for those hospitalized consists of Tamiflu and IV fluids as the worst symptom of severe flu is dehydration, which can be avoided by drinking water and sport drinks. And to avoid this evidently horrific run on hospitals, we should all get a vaccine that costs $25 a pop, for a total of $7.5 BILLION a year to big pharm. This isn't the Plague people, it's what amounts to nature's weight loss program. A couple of days off work (for those of you who can do that, last time I had the flu I was still working, but at the time I worked alone), you lose a couple of pounds, take some OTC meds like Imodium and Tylenol, and end up detoxed after a couple of days. I don't see the emergency for most people.
    You might want to read up on the 1918 flu before you get too blase about the flu.

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