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    Re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    That's not a legitimate standard, but I understand your position. Although a mother whose infant was infected and died of a a preventable disease from someone who chose not to get vaccinated would have the opposite view.
    I think that it is legitimate... and that mother would have to deal with it. Life is not fair.

    It's fine that you oppose mandates, but it cannot be immoral to mandate policy that is proved to save lives and suffering with incredibly small risks, especially when that mandate is an essential part of vaccines working effectively - the near universal coverage is what makes them effective.
    It is immoral to mandate, or force, that a parent inject their child with something that might harm them.

    The disease you may or may not get but it is Russian Roulette to force a person to vaccinate. The two are not comparable...
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    Re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by paddymcdougall View Post
    Exactly. If Bodhisattva's child had gotten extremely ill from measles from someone who wasn't vaccinated - while his child was too young to get the vaccine - he would have been arguing the other side and saying "All I can say is once you have had your child almost die due to someone not getting a vaccine...."
    Wrong. I would understand that that living life is a risk. No adult should be compelled by force to do anything. Helmets should not be mandatory nor should seat belts either... and CERTAINLY not forcing a violation of an individuals body. You can assume the worst of somebody like me if you like but it is not only nice but it is illogical.
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    Re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Wrong. I would understand that that living life is a risk. No adult should be compelled by force to do anything. Helmets should not be mandatory nor should seat belts either... and CERTAINLY not forcing a violation of an individuals body. You can assume the worst of somebody like me if you like but it is not only nice but it is illogical.
    And I as pointed in another thread in the US we do not have unlimited rights regarding our body.

    From Roe VIII
    The Court has refused to recognize an unlimited right of this kind in the past. Jacobson v. Massachusetts, 197 U.S. 11 (1905) (vaccination)
    ETA:

    I do not think the worst of you.
    And I am sorry your daughter became very ill after her MMR vaccination.
    Last edited by minnie616; 02-11-15 at 05:45 PM.
    When it comes to matters of reproduce health, Politicians and the religious dogma of another faith should never interfere with religious liberty of an individual or her faith.

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    Re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by minnie616 View Post
    And I as pointed in another thread the right to privacy is not an unlimited right to do with one's body as one pleases.

    The right to privacy is not an unlimited right to do with one's body as one pleases.

    From Roe VIII
    And as I countered that point that Decision is immoral and wrong and can and should be challenged and overturned just as 1896 Plessy was overturned in 1954.
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    Re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    I Don’t Vaccinate My Child Because It’s My Right To Decide What Eliminated Diseases Come Roaring Back!!!

    The decision to cause a full-blown, multi-state pandemic of a virus that was effectively eliminated from the national population generations ago is my choice alone, and regardless of your personal convictions, that right should never be taken away from a child’s parent. Never.

    Say what you will about me, but I’ve read the information out there and weighed every option, so I am confident in my choice to revive a debilitating illness that was long ago declared dead and let it spread like wildfire from school to school, town to town, and state to state, until it reaches every corner of the country. Leaving such a momentous decision to someone you haven’t even met and who doesn’t care about your child personally—now that’s absurd! Maybe I choose to bring back the mumps. Or maybe it’s diphtheria. Or maybe it’s some other potentially fatal disease that can easily pass among those too young or too medically unfit to be vaccinated themselves. But whichever highly communicable and formerly wiped-out disease that I opt to resurrect with a vengeance, it is a highly personal decision that only I and my family have the liberty to make.

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    Re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by minnie616 View Post
    And I as pointed in another thread in the US we do not have unlimited rights regarding our body.

    From Roe VIII


    ETA:

    I do not think the worst of you.
    And I am sorry your daughter became very ill after her MMR vaccination.
    We don't have unlimited rights on anything... but violating bodily sovereignty is important enough to not take lightly. It is a dangerous precendent to set. Slippery Slope arguments in this case are relevant. In order to prevent crime perhaps they install tracking deviced IN every person, as an example.

    I know that you don't minnie... you are, as far as I can tell, a very sweet and genuine person and I appreciate that.
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    Re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

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    Usually a gag for wise mouthed insulting little girls. Then some good nylon rope so I can tie them up, toss them in the trunk of my car and forget about them.

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    Re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    What a drama filled FAIL.
    lollerz.

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    Re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by Oberon View Post
    lollerz.
    FYI... Trolling is against the rules.
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    Re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    FYI... Trolling is against the rules.
    So don't troll. Are you turning yourself in or something? The article I cited is an Onion article, and it pretty much covers how utterly ridiculous the anti-vaccine arguments are.

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