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Thread: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

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    Re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    You'll have to explain that. Illegals have been flooding over the border since Reagan signed the last amnesty. I'm missing how this is a problem unique to Obama or how they affect his unstated plans. Since 2008 at worst the illegal population has been stagnant, if not declining. In the prior eight years, it increased about 4 million.

    Also not sure who "those illegals" are who we should be most concerned about. The 12 million that were here before Obama, or the net zero since he took office? And if you're talking about the children moved to various places around the country by immigration folks, they WERE vaccinated as part of the medical treatment they got under the care of the Feds. I've posted the link outlining the care those children received.
    Beginning in mid to late 2013 The Insane One invited his Million Illegal Aliens to come here from the poorest nations in South America. The federal government dispersed those million illegal into communities across the nation. Mysteriously, right about that time a half dozen diseases that had been eradicated began to re-emerge.

    Maybe the Federal government should tell us every place where The Insane One's Million Illegal Aliens were put. And maybe the CDC should publish the legal status of every measles case, especially of the carriers who started each instance.

    Then we need to impeach The Insane One for violating the Constitution.

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    Re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    Isn't this how tyranny works?

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    Re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    If I vaccinate my child, it won't hurt yours, if you don't vaccinate your child, it might hurt mine!
    Then why bother with vaccinations at all?

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    Re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Then why bother with vaccinations at all?
    I'm sorry, I don't understand the question.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    I'm sorry, I don't understand the question.
    If everyone must be vaccinated for anyone to be protected then why bother at all?

    This was all about moving the conversation away from the most likely source of the re-emergence of these diseases, The Insane One's Million Illegal Aliens.

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    Re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    It's a fact that tuberculosis re-entered the U.S. through Mexico, at first through cattle.

    From Slate:

    Diseases that are endemic to other countries are not always the same ones that we face in the United States. This is a medical observation, not a political one, and it is the reason immigrants who enter this country legally face rigorous screenings in advance of entry for sexually transmitted diseases, active tuberculosis, new strains of influenza, leprosy, cholera, and plague.

    The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention require that all legal immigrants receive a medical exam. Proof of vaccination is also mandatory for measles, mumps, rubella, polio, tetanus, diphtheria, pertussis, haemophilus strains, hepatitis A and B, rotavirus, meningococcus, chicken pox, pneumonia, and seasonal flu.

    None of these rigorous screenings can be done in advance of entry on people who enter this country illegally and undetected. And once people are detained, the screenings they receive are not nearly as rigorous or effective at controlling the spread of disease. This is the reason that we have a potential public health crisis along our southern border. Children crossing border illegally: A possible public health crisis from detention centers.

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    Re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    If everyone must be vaccinated for anyone to be protected then why bother at all?

    This was all about moving the conversation away from the most likely source of the re-emergence of these diseases, The Insane One's Million Illegal Aliens.
    If science supports the notion that less than 100% is adequate! I suppose I haven't any concerns then. We do have 102 cases of measles going on, after having gone sometime with out them. What's the explanation for that.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    It's a fact that tuberculosis re-entered the U.S. through Mexico, at first through cattle.

    From Slate:

    Diseases that are endemic to other countries are not always the same ones that we face in the United States. This is a medical observation, not a political one, and it is the reason immigrants who enter this country legally face rigorous screenings in advance of entry for sexually transmitted diseases, active tuberculosis, new strains of influenza, leprosy, cholera, and plague.

    The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention require that all legal immigrants receive a medical exam. Proof of vaccination is also mandatory for measles, mumps, rubella, polio, tetanus, diphtheria, pertussis, haemophilus strains, hepatitis A and B, rotavirus, meningococcus, chicken pox, pneumonia, and seasonal flu.

    None of these rigorous screenings can be done in advance of entry on people who enter this country illegally and undetected. And once people are detained, the screenings they receive are not nearly as rigorous or effective at controlling the spread of disease. This is the reason that we have a potential public health crisis along our southern border. Children crossing border illegally: A possible public health crisis from detention centers.
    That is a concern.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    It's not just faith based objections. There are those that object on the basis of science that found potential hazards with vaccinations, though that science, appears to have been subsequently found incomplete or inaccurate.
    My point was that the courts have already said - especially in the case of minor children - that they can force
    You to have a medical procedure. One of the threads on this site discusses the current case of a minor being forces to undergo chemo despite her and her parents wishes.
    They all have husbands and wives and children and houses and dogs, and, you know, they've all made themselves a part of something and they can talk about what they do. What am I gonna say? "I killed the president of Paraguay with a fork. How've you been?

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    Re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    That is a concern.
    Yes, it is. And what should scare the living daylights out of folks are the MRSAs, which now kill more people than HIV.

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