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Thread: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    Do what you want. Here's the link Vectors or Victims? Docs Slam Rumors That Migrants Carry Disease - NBC News

    It last cited in post 1051 on this thread. You were post 1053 so I'm surprised you missed it.
    No one missed anything other than you. You cite a leftist support piece from 2009 and believe you have found "The Truth".

    Bottom line is the person I responded to made a baseless claim - that it's illegals spreading disease and being unleashed in his community. If he or you want to claim it's a flood of diseased invaders spreading disease in these helpless communities, which is what I was responding to, then prove it.
    Can you show me the health records of The Insane One's Million Illegal Aliens from 2013-2014? Can you provide me with a comprehensive map of the communities The Insane One's regime planted these time bombs within? Can you give me a breakdown of the countries of origins, the ages of the invaders and any correlations between the arrival of the enemy invaders and outbreaks of once conquered diseases?

    It is hardly a baseless claim. Illegal aliens come from places where these diseases are common. The illegal invaders are the least likely to have received vaccinations. They come from the poorest, most ignorant parts of their societies. But you already know that. Don't you?

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    Re: Pure evil. This is the face of the Democratic Party. And Establishment Republican

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    About what? The numbers of illegals? If so then read the thread - it's been posted, as recently as this morning.

    But in case your Google doesn't work, try this: As Growth Stalls, Unauthorized Immigrant Population Becomes More Settled | Pew Research Center's Hispanic Trends Project

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    Point out for me the Obama flood of dirty, diseased invading children...
    Were you asleep through 2013 and 2014? You were, weren't you?

    By S.A. Miller - The Washington Times - Tuesday, July 29, 2014
    The Obama administration is concealing key details about its response to the surge of unaccompanied children illegally crossing the southern border, including where the unaccompanied minors are being sheltered and the circumstances under which some are set free inside the U.S.

    Lawmakers on Capitol Hill say the lack of information has handicapped their push to pass legislation to gain a handle on the surge a debate taking place this week in both chambers.

    Has this changed in the last six months? Where are The Insane One's Million Illegal Aliens?

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    Re: Pure evil. This is the face of the Democratic Party. And Establishment Republican

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Were you asleep through 2013 and 2014? You were, weren't you?

    By S.A. Miller - The Washington Times - Tuesday, July 29, 2014
    The Obama administration is concealing key details about its response to the surge of unaccompanied children illegally crossing the southern border, including where the unaccompanied minors are being sheltered and the circumstances under which some are set free inside the U.S.

    Lawmakers on Capitol Hill say the lack of information has handicapped their push to pass legislation to gain a handle on the surge — a debate taking place this week in both chambers.

    Has this changed in the last six months? Where are The Insane One's Million Illegal Aliens?
    LOL - no data, as I suspected. You are predictable, I'll give you that!

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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    And neither do tourists from France or China or Brazil...



    No, the CDC lists the know ground zero patients, and where they were from. I posted the link.



    LOL - I'm asking for data showing illegals were the ground zero patients. So far that data hasn't been produced. That's the facts I've used to form and reinforce my opinion that blaming it on illegals is veering into straight up bigotry.

    The CDC provides the data I want to have - who is the ground zero patient. It they were all from Guatemala, I'd form a different opinion about the source of the outbreaks. That NONE are from Guatemala that we know of tells me illegals aren't the problem. But if you asked me - should we make a concerted effort to get children of undocumented workers vaccinated - yes. Provide them free at the local clinic to them and other poor residents.

    No matter who brought it in - and it WAS travelers from at least 18 different countries in the first five months of 2014 - U.S. citizens refusing to vaccinate allow the disease to take hold and spread. The Amish don't vaccinate, so the disease spread quickly throughout the entire community. A similar community in Alabama wouldn't CARE (at least as much) that a measles patient showed up at the county fair because almost all of them are vaccinated and immune. If anyone caught it, it would end there most likely - a handful of cases at most, not hundreds.
    Right. The Insane One's regime has hidden the comprehensive list of where they placed The Insane One's Million Illegals. They would not be patients. They are likely to be asymptomatic carriers. The EPA and the IRS are blunt political weapons used against the people. NASA had its mission shifted to Muslim Outreach, why do you think the CDC is immune from political mischief?

    If you are thinking only of measles you think far too narrowly.

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    Re: Pure evil. This is the face of the Democratic Party. And Establishment Republican

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    LOL - no data, as I suspected. You are predictable, I'll give you that!
    Do you have a comprehension difficulty? The Congress cannot get information from The Insane One's regime. You too are predictable. Why has The Insane One hidden the data?

    You should have just admitted that you were asleep.

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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    "I do not believe we will get real information until after The Insane One is forced out of office or ends his reign of error. Keep your head buried in the sand and continue to blame your neighbor.

    Deep down in the dark recesses of your heart you know I am right."

    I have given you an answer. You don't like it.

    What makes you think I am speaking of Mexicans? I am speaking of invaders. They come from a wide variety of countries. And they are attacking us. They attack us with diseases, with crime, by displacing Americans in jobs, by destroying our economy through welfare and medical care.

    If you do not hate this treasonous monster in the White House you are not paying attention. Or worse you are secretly as treasonous as he is. I cannot speak to your current state in life. I can speak to the state of the nation and we are in very deep trouble.
    I asked you to show proof that this outbreak came from illegal aliens.

    You should really not hyperbolize, the more you do, the less credible you are. (if that is even possible)
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    Re: Pure evil. This is the face of the Democratic Party. And Establishment Republican

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    "When you delight in bringing in illegal aliens to supplant American citizens you reveal the evil in your heart and the Democratic Party's strategy to achieve one party, Soviet style rule.

    It is pure evil."

    This is the kind of idiocy I have learned to expect from the authoritarian statists who post here. There is not much else to say.
    Good because you haven't said anything worth noting to begin with.

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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Are you another who believes the poorest of the poor from Guatemala were vaccinated against all of the common diseases of their origin states? Perhaps you should question all of the evidence of your own complete ignorance. In the absence of the diseased would it matter of not everyone vaccinated their children? The Insane One brought them here. He did not even need Gruber to lie to his base. Did he?
    You're weird.

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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    You might have some credibility if you recognized when these "invaders" actually came to America, but your blind partisanship won't allow that. 12 million before Obama took office - roughly zero since then.

    FWIW, I can only assume that if you were in the shoes of these "invaders," you'd make the same choice they did - walk over as invited, work, take care of their families. I'd be embarrassed as a father or husband to tell my family that I won't do what I can to give them the best life possible and so will not cross the border and find a job that will support them, and often an extended family left at home.
    This tells me that you have no interest in truth. The Insane One invited a million illegals to come here in 2013-2014. That number is not zero. So why do you lie about this?

    I do not care why the invaders invaded. The federal government has the sole responsibility for protecting its citizens. The Federal government not only failed it encouraged this invasion. They should not have been invited to come here illegally. And they should not have been allowed in simply because they want to come here. This is my country. It is not their country. Toss out the invaders. And while we are at it we should toss out the Fifth Column enablers.

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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by paddymcdougall View Post
    Re ebola vs. measles -

    The reaction to ebola was way overblown.

    But the reaction to people not vaccinating their kids for measles, mumps, polio and chicken pox is NOT overblown. These diseases are much more likely to get you sick - and possibly kill you - than ebola in our country.

    And yes, flu is also a problem and we should all get our flu shots (although I admit I'm hit and miss for that one).
    Jenny McCarthy should be deported..she has done more harm, health wise than any illegal immigrant has health wise.
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