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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Pretty sure that I know a hell of a lot more about it than you as I teach a small unit on the Plague in high school... just realized you are a lady so kindly leave the insults out of it.
    From a generic text book on....health studies? History? How about microbiology? Then we'd be talking about enough specifics to actually confer more than numbers and symptoms and perhaps, the effects on Europe after (it only covers Europe, right?)
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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Prosecuted?

    Were your parents jailed? Did you press charges?

    How do you feel about the invasion? How do you feel about that piece of absolute **** in the white house who encouraged this invasion of diseased illegal aliens? Should he be prosecuted? The correct answer is "Yes, Misterveritis. The piece of absolute **** should be prosecuted for failing to secure our borders."
    Are you talking about Obama or Bush?



    I'm not an expert at reading graphs, but basic math tells me in the 8 years prior to Obama about 500,000 illegals on net arrived in this country per year. Since then the population has declined. So I'm assuming the **** in the White House is George the II.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    No, those were just the foci of certain conversations.

    And I cant help it if there are people with marginal...or less...understanding of certain things.

    It's fairly relevant regarding vaccination, but not primarily. However it's only incidental in the way that diseases exploit populations.
    Most of your arguments contain herd immunity... hence the challenges to back it up or the poking of holes in it... just saying.
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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    From a generic text book on....health studies? History? How about microbiology? Then we'd be talking about enough specifics to actually confer more than numbers and symptoms and perhaps, the effects on Europe after (it only covers Europe, right?)
    She said, "MY GAWD do you have no knowledge of history? whole towns were wiped out from the bubonic plagued. In a 5 year period 25 million people died in Europe - and there were a lot fewer people back then. Google it. " to which I answered that I teach it so I obviously have knowledge of it. She did not talk about microbiology but we do cover aspects of that even though that is irrelevant to the comment that I made about her comment.
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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    Are you talking about Obama or Bush?



    I'm not an expert at reading graphs, but basic math tells me in the 8 years prior to Obama about 500,000 illegals on net arrived in this country per year. Since then the population has declined. So I'm assuming the **** in the White House is George the II.
    You also are not an expert on chronology... we are in the year 2015.
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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    You also are not an expert on chronology... we are in the year 2015.
    Here is the latest stats that I could find.

    "an estimated 11.5 million unauthorized immigrants were living in the United States in January 2011 compared to a revised 2010 estimate of 11.6 million.

    These results suggest little to no change in the unauthorized immigrant population from 2010 to 2011.


    It is unlikely that the unauthorized immigrant population increased after 2007 given relatively high U.S. unemployment, improved economic conditions in Mexico, record low numbers of apprehensions of unauthorized immigrants at U.S. borders, and greater levels of border enforcement.

    Of all unauthorized immigrants living in the United States in 2011, 55 percent entered between 1995 and 2004. Entrants since 2005 accounted for only 14 percent of the total.
    Fifty-nine percent of unauthorized immigrants in 2011 were from Mexico."

    Mar. 2012, US Department of Homeland Security

    "Estimates of the Unauthorized Population Residing in the United States: January 2011"
    http://immigration.procon.org/view.r...ourceID=000844
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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Have you sent the President your thoughts? He allowed all the illegal aliens into the country with all of their diseases. American citizens had their children die. And still we have not risen up and swept him and his regime out of office.
    The problem with that idea is that most of the central American countries that those immigrants are coming from don't have significantly different vaccination rates than the United States does.

    World Bank statistics indicate that some of the countries that the kids are traveling from actually have higher vaccination rates than the United States. The U.S. has a 92 percent vaccination rate for measles. Mexico vaccinates 99 percent of its children; Guatemala, El Salvador and Honduras all have a 93 percent vaccination rate.
    Vectors or Victims? Docs Slam Rumors That Migrants Carry Disease - NBC News
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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    You also are not an expert on chronology... we are in the year 2015.
    True, but the point was the "invasion" of all these diseased illegals happened under Bush, which I'm sure was Misterveritis' point....

    FWIW, the latest estimate I could find (2013) puts the number at 11.3 million - still a decline since George left, not an "invasion."

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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Medical mistakes are the #3 leading cause of death now. Only an idiot believes that doctors are gods.
    Never claimed Doctors are gods only that being afraid of something that happens 1 in a million to the point that you avoid it even though it will prevent something as bad or worse that can happen 1 in 1000 times is illogical.
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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Well, then the Bubonic Plague (of earlier centuries) is hardly an example of what could happen if we don't get vaccinated against the Measles, now, is it?
    I'm not the one who brought it up.

    And it supports my side way better than it supports yours.
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