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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    Yes, because in most parts of the Netherlands the level of vaccination is higher than 95%. Sadly in a small part, the bible belt where they choose to not vaccinate out of religious reasons. They feel that if their child gets polio, measles or a deadly disease that is vaccinated against, then they/the child must have done something that god is punishing them for.
    Religious freedom.

    Freedom in general is a little risky.
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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Nobody is up in arms calling parents idiots from driving their kids in cars even though every year that leads a couple of thousand deaths. "In fact, for children between the ages of 2 and 14, motor vehicle accidents are the leading cause of death."

    Children & Car Accidents; the Alarming Statistics
    Exactly....there's a little bit of hysteria going on.
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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Vaccinations do not work for 100% of the people and they are not 100% effective - there are always exceptions. And even if someone gets a vaccination for themselves or their kids, they should investigate what it is, what it's made of, what the risks are and question the doctor or other health professionals about their specific children or family members before having it. They should also consult the schools system and even legal representation if they feel strongly about the issue before either accepting or rejecting a vaccination. As already stated, there are legitimate cases where a child getting a vaccination could cause more damage than not getting it.
    You might want to ask how many illegal aliens are now in the same school as your children. As long as they are here we are in danger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    In support of vaccinations: the medical community. Against vaccinations: non-doctors and a Playboy model.

    The side you are on determines whether or not you are anti-science.
    Tough choice...could I see a photo of the model before I decide?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    If you are facing off against the entire medical community, and if you do not even have a medical education yourself, and if the most famous spokesman for your cause is a Playbody model, you are most certainly not on the "most reasonable side."
    Play body? Boy! I sure hope it is a woman. Show me the photo!

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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by paddymcdougall View Post
    And don't forget - the measles vaccine came in 1963. I was born in 1962, and have no idea if I got the vaccine or not; I know I never had measles. CDC is recommending that even those adults who did get vaccinated in the 1960s get re-vaccinated. I only know that because I've been reading up on the current measles outbreak in California. I'll get vaccinated now. But I could easily have gotten measles from unvaccinated kids before I get the vaccine. How many people aren't reading the CDC details, who are assuming their 1960s vaccines are sufficient? They are at risk.

    Kids need to be vaccinated. period. I know you agree; I can't believe there are people who don't.
    Maybe we should secure our borders and keep illegal aliens who carry these diseases out of our country.

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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Let me guess, you will have nothing but praise for the monster who encouraged the invasion by illegal aliens who brought in the diseases with them.

    How do you feel about American Indians? Just checking.
    Oh? So you know these diseases were "brought" by illegal aliens and weren't here all along? Wait, you can't actually prove that because the measles could have been brought over by any number of migrants who don't vaccinate. From the Amish, to any legal US traveler who didn't need anything other than a tourist visa to enter the country. That essentially makes your silly xenophobia soooo 19th century.
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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Agree.


    We should get government out of the business of running schools. Let private companies offer educational experiences. Allow them to set their own requirements for receiving their service for a fee. Some can choose to accept those who have no vaccines. Others can demand it as a term of service.

    Secure our borders.

    Problem solved.
    It only solves the problem if there is an entity controlling what is taught. There should be an educational standard that every school is held to, be it public, private or home schools. Otherwise, you risk crazy religious people teaching a bunch of irrational nonsense to their kids. I reject that there should be any kids without vaccines, it isn't just the kids in schools that are at risk, it is *ALL* of society.
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    re: Vaccine Critics Turn Defensive Over Measles [W:1210]

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    It should be a parent's choice whether or not to vaccinate their child. And should they choose not to, they should probably be investigated by CPS. Something fishy going on in that household.
    This is more evil. Parents, not the state, are responsible for their children.

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