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    Re: Senate passes bill approving Keystone XL oil pipeline Associated Press By DINA CA

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Well, In reading this story from the guardian; South Dakota Sioux tribe calls Keystone XL pipeline approval 'act of war' | Environment | The Guardian some Environmental nuts have really clouded these tribes thinking on the pipeline...This is the most studied pipeline in history, and probably the safest one too....You have more chance spilling oil today adding it to your engine than you do from this pipeline.
    The environmentalists are in this up to their ass and those are votes the left depends on.
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    Re: Senate passes bill approving Keystone XL oil pipeline Associated Press By DINA CA

    Quote Originally Posted by minnie616 View Post
    Actually as a long time Michigan resident I do not trust pipelines as much as you do.
    I remember the 2010 Enbridge tar sand oil spill quite vividly.



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    EPA Response to Enbridge Spill in Michigan | US EPA
    For those who are interested in timeline of the Michigan tar sands oil spill and how the company did not even inform the EPA that this not an ordinary oil spill but that the spill was from tar sands oil the following gives a lot of interesting details.
    The Dilbit Disaster: Inside The Biggest Oil Spill You've Never Heard Of, Part 1

    A black goo stopped just 10 feet from the metal cap that marked his drinking water well. Walking on the tarry mess was like stepping on chewing gum.
    http://insideclimatenews.org/news/20...b-pipeline-epa
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    Re: Senate passes bill approving Keystone XL oil pipeline Associated Press By DINA CA

    Quote Originally Posted by minnie616 View Post
    Actually as a long time Michigan resident I do not trust pipelines as much as you do.
    I remember the 2010 Enbridge tar sand oil spill quite vividly.



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    http://www.epa.gov/enbridgespill/
    Yep, grew up in Lansing. So you trust truck, and rail more?
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    Re: Senate passes bill approving Keystone XL oil pipeline Associated Press By DINA CA

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Yep, grew up in Lansing. So you trust truck, and rail more?
    I did not grow up in Lansing.
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    Re: Senate passes bill approving Keystone XL oil pipeline Associated Press By DINA CA

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    ?..So you trust truck, and rail more?

    Pick Your Poison For Crude -- Pipeline, Rail, Truck Or Boat



    The short answer is: truck worse than train worse than pipeline worse than boat (Oilprice.com). But that’s only for human death and property destruction.

    For the normalized amount of oil spilled, it’s truck worse than pipeline worse than rail worse than boat (Congressional Research Service).

    Different yet again is for environmental impact (dominated by impact to aquatic habitat), where it’s boat worse than pipeline worse than truck worse than rail.

    So it depends upon what your definition is for worse. Is it death and destruction? Is it amount of oil released? Is it land area or water volume contaminated? Is it habitat destroyed? Is it CO2 emitted?
    http://www.forbes.com/sites/jamescon...truck-or-boat/
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    Re: Senate passes bill approving Keystone XL oil pipeline Associated Press By DINA CA

    Quote Originally Posted by minnie616 View Post
    I did not grow up in Lansing.

    I did.
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    Re: Senate passes bill approving Keystone XL oil pipeline Associated Press By DINA CA

    Quote Originally Posted by minnie616 View Post
    Pick Your Poison For Crude -- Pipeline, Rail, Truck Or Boat



    Pick Your Poison For Crude -- Pipeline, Rail, Truck Or Boat - Forbes
    Pipeline is the safest way to get oil from one place to another.
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    Re: Senate passes bill approving Keystone XL oil pipeline Associated Press By DINA CA

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I did.
    Sorry,
    I misunderstood.
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    Re: Senate passes bill approving Keystone XL oil pipeline Associated Press By DINA CA

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Mornin NQR...I've heard that angle, as well as one that suggests that they are also doing this to undermine our own production increases due to fracking....In any case...I sure love the savings...I know between my wife and I it adds up to about $120. per month...Not chump change in an average joe's like my budget....
    The Saudis have little incentive to undermine us as we are fighting the crazies that threaten the cash cow keeping desert bandits in opulent palaces. Arabs have no love for Russians as the Ruskies are far more heavy handed in dealing with their 'dear friends and allies'...

    As far as savings go, the recent increases in price at the pump has little justification in crude oil prices (still low). But I agree the savings are a short term boon for the average Joe, however I doubt Big Oil or desert bandits turned OPEC powers have much concern there- especially if Obama gets any favorable bump from it.

    I'd suggest looking a little past the short term crumbs for a deeper reason might be in order...

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    Re: Senate passes bill approving Keystone XL oil pipeline Associated Press By DINA CA

    From this Feb.13,2015 article

    Judge halts TransCanada's use of Eminent Domain..



    A Nebraska district judge has halted TransCanada’s attempts to use eminent domain to force landowners to turn over their land for the construction of the Keystone XL pipeline, an act that anti-Keystone activists are calling a major win.
    Nebraska State District Court Judge Mark Kozisek issued a temporary injunction against TransCanada on Thursday after a hearing during which nearly 70 landowners called on the judge to grant the injunction. The injunction will remain in place until Nebraska’s Supreme Court takes up the landowners’ case against state law LB1161, which gave TransCanada the right to use eminent domain against the landowners.
    Judge Halts TransCanada's Use Of Eminent Domain On Nebraskans For Keystone Pipeline | ThinkProgress
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