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    Re: Senate passes bill approving Keystone XL oil pipeline Associated Press By DINA CA

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    No.. WPA was a permanent jobs program. Led to the creation of 8.5 million jobs.
    And what were field were a majority of the jobs in?
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    Re: Senate passes bill approving Keystone XL oil pipeline Associated Press By DINA CA

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Two points:

    1. This thread may not be about Buffett, but it's not about eminent domain either - you made it the issue by speaking against one and not the other.
    It's about Keystone, and for landowners in its path, eminent domain is a big issue. If you support Keystone, you support eminent domain to build it. Buffett has nothing to do with anything.

    2. Your position is hypocritical because you complain about eminent domain being used to support a private entity to build a pipeline but you don't complain about using eminent domain to support a private entity to build rail lines.
    Rail lines and/or roads are used by as many industries as ship goods, and are useful to any industry that has their good delivered by rail/truck - hundreds of industries, thousands of businesses, millions of consumers. The beneficiaries of the pipeline are very small.

    I think we've exhausted our views on this issue and we're never going to agree - and that's fine. Take care and have a good day.
    That's fine.

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    Re: Senate passes bill approving Keystone XL oil pipeline Associated Press By DINA CA

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    And what were field were a majority of the jobs in?
    Infrastructure. Roads, bridges, parks, recreational facilities, hospitals, sidewalks, schools.


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    Re: Senate passes bill approving Keystone XL oil pipeline Associated Press By DINA CA

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post

    Many farmers/ranchers jump at the chance to have a pipeline built across their land, just like they do when a cell tower is built on their land. Good, easy money.
    Let those farmers/ranchers jump then.
    Apparently, not all Nebraskan farmers/ranchers are willing to jump.
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    Re: Senate passes bill approving Keystone XL oil pipeline Associated Press By DINA CA

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    I agree. Most people don't realize that it was the liberals on the court who ruled that eminent domain could be used for private enterprise and conservatives on the court dissented.
    You agree that the supreme court's eminent domain rulings are "the darkest hours in the history of this country's Supreme Court"?
    Then why are you defending this pipeline's use of eminent domain in your previous post?
    You are correct on the SC's liberal court members' support of eminent domain in recent rulings.
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    Re: Senate passes bill approving Keystone XL oil pipeline Associated Press By DINA CA

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Because they can force the Dem candidate to either stick with BHO's decision and get hammered as anti-growth and anti-jobs, or abandon BHO's decision and turn off the environmental base. It's a great wedge issue for the Repubs. I would not be surprised if Repubs are hoping for a veto.
    My thoughts exactly. The question writes itself:

    "Candidate Hillary, as President, would you have vetoed the Keystone Pipeline Bill, as the President did?"

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    Re: Senate passes bill approving Keystone XL oil pipeline Associated Press By DINA CA

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Yup, exactly right. I always wonder when Liberals scream about corporations stealing from the little guy and blah blah why they don't scream concurrently about the Liberals on the bench enabling it through that ruling.
    Hyperbole much?
    I expect better from an English major.
    I'm not screaming at anyone and I'm admitting the SC's libs were wrong in their eminent domain decisions.
    Does the fact that liberal justices screwed up make eminent domain okay with you?
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    Re: Senate passes bill approving Keystone XL oil pipeline Associated Press By DINA CA

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    BTW, what's a bit funny is this has long been a conservative issue. Here's legislation titled, "Protection of Homes, Small Businesses and Private Property Act of 2012." And some language:



    One of the co-sponsors of this is Cornyn, who also enthusiastically supports Keystone. I'm not sure how to square those positions.
    Ha-ha.
    He's a politician.
    Consistency is not their forte.
    Politicians don't need to square no stinking positions.
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    Re: Senate passes bill approving Keystone XL oil pipeline Associated Press By DINA CA

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    I have mixed feelings on this. Should one person be able to prevent a major project that could bring money and prosperity to a region with few resources ??

    A few years ago, Hyundai announced plans to build a major plant near here. It would employ thousands of people directly, not counting the support plants that would employ even more. Everyone that owned land in the proposed site agreed to sell, except for one person. They refused. This was before the liberals on the SC ruled that eminent domain could be used for private businesses. Of course Hyundai decided to build their plant in Alabama instead of Kentucky. Thousands of high paying jobs and tax money were lost.

    I don't think that person who refused to sell is a very popular person these days.
    And I'm on the side of that one guy who doesn't want to move.
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    Re: Senate passes bill approving Keystone XL oil pipeline Associated Press By DINA CA

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Infrastructure. Roads, bridges, parks, recreational facilities, hospitals, sidewalks, schools.
    Construction jobs. Yes?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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