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    Re: Senate passes bill approving Keystone XL oil pipeline Associated Press By DINA CA

    Quote Originally Posted by Declan View Post
    Canada is not wanting the Keystone pipeline to go through the US just to end up back in Canada.
    Ok... I fail to see how this backs up your point(s)..


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    Re: Senate passes bill approving Keystone XL pipeline

    Quote Originally Posted by Chainsaw View Post
    Remember, Obamas executive order to delay the implementation of the Employer Mandate until 2015. Employers and soon employees are just now starting to feel the pain.
    in 2026, republicans are going to be saying "In 2028, voters are going to be voting against Obamacare." In the meantime, in 2016, Obama won't be on the ballot and all those feeling the pain will be saying "Well what the hell did the GOP do to stop my suffering--cut Koch Brother taxes."

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    Re: Senate passes bill approving Keystone XL oil pipeline Associated Press By DINA CA

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    If he vetoes it he will be on the record in doing so and also will be the Senators who backed him.
    True. But I think he's to a point where he really doesn't give a **** anymore about any of that.

    If he does veto it, what sort of impact will it have on the Democratic primary candidates?
    Might this be what Hillary is delaying for?

    Now that the electorate has gotten a taste for and / or remembers what cheap gas is like, I figure that his vetoing XL will be remembered and interpreted as his wanting their gas prices to increase (never mind what his Energy Sec. Chu said oh way back when), and who's gonna like that? And want to vote for more of that?
    Disinformation campaign? The Russian collusion meme pushed by the 'news' media, behaving as a political propaganda organ, hell bent to destroy a legitimately elected president to implement his agenda per the votes of the same electorate. Reference The Big Lie Reference Goebbels

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    Re: Senate passes bill approving Keystone XL oil pipeline Associated Press By DINA CA

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Ok... I fail to see how this backs up your point(s)..
    Oil from Canada is intended for export primarily to Korea and Latin America. I have read that Korea is already working on refineries that can reprocess the stuff to their needs. Oil is not a standard commodity even though we discuss it that way. It is pretty self-evident what my point is--Koreans and Latin Americans need gas and fuel oils. How many times must we circle the same pole?

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    Re: Senate passes bill approving Keystone XL pipeline

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    He's already said he will veto. This is short-lived. Sorry NP.


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    Re: Senate passes bill approving Keystone XL pipeline

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Somehow the KeystoneXL gets tied into ObamaCare....
    This is the airplane vs car phobia. Even though people are exponentially more likely to be killed in a car crash, people are much more anxious if not down right afraid of flying than driving. It is much safer to pipe than truck or rail oil.

    I have heard these ridiculous liberal arguments that the XL will actually increase the cost of oil/gas. I am sure there is, but I cant think of a single example when streamlining and making a distribution system more efficient raised the cost of the product.

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    Re: Senate passes bill approving Keystone XL pipeline

    Quote Originally Posted by Declan View Post
    in 2026, republicans are going to be saying "In 2028, voters are going to be voting against Obamacare." In the meantime, in 2016, Obama won't be on the ballot and all those feeling the pain will be saying "Well what the hell did the GOP do to stop my suffering--cut Koch Brother taxes."
    Naw, they are going to be even more pissed at dem senators in 2016 because they won't get a chance to take it out on Obama.

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    Re: Senate passes bill approving Keystone XL oil pipeline Associated Press By DINA CA

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    True. But I think he's to a point where he really doesn't give a **** anymore about any of that.

    If he does veto it, what sort of impact will it have on the Democratic primary candidates?
    Might this be what Hillary is delaying for?

    Now that the electorate has gotten a taste for and / or remembers what cheap gas is like, I figure that his vetoing XL will be remembered and interpreted as his wanting their gas prices to increase (never mind what his Energy Sec. Chu said oh way back when), and who's gonna like that? And want to vote for more of that?
    McConnell will simply repackage KXL with another bill that Dems can't vote against.
    You underestimate the master tactician McTurtle.

    I'd prefer they get to work on a Transportation bill before the Highway trust fund goes bankrupt in May.

    And of course Obama's budget is DOA next Monday.

    Then we have the DHS shutting down Feb. 27--a sure loser for GOPs.

    I continue to give credit to McConnell--as I have since election eve.
    After all, we've seen more amendments voted on in four weeks than all of last year .
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    Re: Senate passes bill approving Keystone XL oil pipeline Associated Press By DINA CA

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    If he vetoes it he will be on the record in doing so and also will be the Senators who backed him.
    .... and, in the long-run, no one will care nor remember.

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    Re: Senate passes bill approving Keystone XL pipeline

    Quote Originally Posted by Chainsaw View Post
    Naw, they are going to be even more pissed at dem senators in 2016 because they won't get a chance to take it out on Obama.
    ...and most of the Dem Senators running in 2016 are running from safe states. Its the Cons running in 2016 that have to worry about the elections. The exact perfect storm that worked against the Dems in 2014 reverses in 2016 to work against the Cons. The Cons get two years with a Senate majority.

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