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    Mormon church backs LGBT rights -- with one condition

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    Mormon church backs LGBT rights -- with one condition


    Convening a rare press conference on Tuesday at church headquarters in Salt Lake City, Mormon leaders pledged to support anti-discrimination laws for gays, lesbians, bisexuals and transgender people, as long the laws also protect the rights of religious groups.

    "But, as a matter of public policy, it appears deeply flawed," said HRC Legal Director Sarah Warbelow. Doctors, landlords and business owners would still be allowed to discriminate against gays and lesbians, as long as they cited a religious reason, she said.


    uhm a couple things

    1.) what they are "claiming" to want already exists, protections of rights or religion and religious groups are already in place. Seems they want NEW things that dont exist.

    2.) just like people in the article say, this is nothing different than saying

    "hey gays can have equal rights and people can't illegal discriminate against them just like people can't illegal discriminate against gender, age, race, religion etc

    UNLESS its religious people doing the illegal discrimination then its ok LMAO wow what BS.
    also FYI many Mormons dont feel this way they respect equal rights

    uhm, am i missing something? who do they think they are fooling?
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    Re: Mormon church backs LGBT rights -- with one condition

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post

    uhm, am i missing something?
    Yes, read the last few paragraphs of your link to see if you can figure it out.

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    Re: Mormon church backs LGBT rights -- with one condition

    Quote Originally Posted by Declan View Post
    Yes, read the last few paragraphs of your link to see if you can figure it out.
    Ive read the whole thing and about 7 other articles, theres nothgin to figure out

    its a dishonest claim they are making saying they support equal rights when they do not

    the rights they want already exist and some of the other stuff they mention are in fact NOT rights, never have been and never will be and if they did exist that wouldnt be equal rights.

    Their claims of "serious" issues arent serious at all and already have answers to them.

    The whole thing is a magic show, look at the right hand while im stealing others rights with my left.

    No one honest is going to fall for it.
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    Re: Mormon church backs LGBT rights -- with one condition

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    Ive read the whole thing and about 7 other articles, theres nothgin to figure out

    its a dishonest claim they are making saying they support equal rights when they do not

    the rights they want already exist and some of the other stuff they mention are in fact NOT rights, never have been and never will be and if they did exist that wouldnt be equal rights.

    Their claims of "serious" issues arent serious at all and already have answers to them.

    The whole thing is a magic show, look at the right hand while im stealing others rights with my left.

    No one honest is going to fall for it.
    Yeah your skills at reading between the lines suck:

    "What kinds of religious rights are we talking about?" said Elder Jeffrey Holland, a member of the church's Quorum of Twelve Apostles.

    It begins with the rights of faith communities to preach their beliefs from the pulpit, teach them in church classrooms and freely select their own leaders and ministers, Holland said.
    They are worried about losing their tax exempt status for speaking out against homosexuality.

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    Re: Mormon church backs LGBT rights -- with one condition

    Quote Originally Posted by Declan View Post
    Yeah your skills at reading between the lines suck:



    They are worried about losing their tax exempt status for speaking out against homosexuality.
    nope its perfectly fine and just like i said, they arent going for balance or rights protections they want more rights and others to have less

    also thier tax exmpt status is perfectly intact and in no danger for just "speaking out against homosexuality" they are free to do so and have that right ALREADY
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    Re: Mormon church backs LGBT rights -- with one condition

    I'd say the LGBT community should ask what rights Mormons in Utah feel they have. Do they have the right to ... Oh... I don't know... determine who gets married and who doesn't?
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    Re: Mormon church backs LGBT rights -- with one condition

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    Mormon church backs LGBT rights -- with one condition - CNN.com




    uhm a couple things

    1.) what they are "claiming" to want already exists, protections of rights or religion and religious groups are already in place. Seems they want NEW things that dont exist.

    2.) just like people in the article say, this is nothing different than saying

    "hey gays can have equal rights and people can't illegal discriminate against them just like people can't illegal discriminate against gender, age, race, religion etc

    UNLESS its religious people doing the illegal discrimination then its ok LMAO wow what BS.
    also FYI many Mormons dont feel this way they respect equal rights

    uhm, am i missing something? who do they think they are fooling?
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    Re: Mormon church backs LGBT rights -- with one condition

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    nope its perfectly fine and just like i said, they arent going for balance or rights protections they want more rights and others to have less

    also thier tax exmpt status is perfectly intact and in no danger for just "speaking out against homosexuality" they are free to do so and have that right ALREADY
    Like I said, your skills suck. This is "Okay we will stop opposing gay rights, but we are not going to sop being involved in politics, so you have to let us be involved in politics and keep our tax exemption in exchange for us tolerating gays."

    You do realize that the Mormon Church is Florida's largest private land owner don't you?

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    Re: Mormon church backs LGBT rights -- with one condition

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    Ahh, there's nothing like Jim Crow; or should I say Joseph Smith laws...
    exactly

    the claim of balance is complete crap

    its already balanced in areas that have qual rights

    heres what we have now in those areas:
    its illegal to discriminate against a person based on religion
    its illegal to discriminate against a person based on sexual orientation
    thats balanced


    what they want

    its illegal to discriminate against a person based on religion
    its illegal to discriminate against a person based on sexual orientation UNLESS you do it based on religion
    thats NOT balanced lol
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