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    Re: 'We will cut off your head in the White House': ISIS threatens to behead Obama...

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Yet they seem disinterested in killing the revolutionaries, even when the revolutionaries are at their gates, shooting at them, chopping their heads off and raping their women. Most revolutionaries don't get killed by the people, that's the problem. The people just learn how to live under the revolutionaries and eventually, be it Stockholm Syndrome or something else, sympathize with their cause.
    It is about 6 months. If an area is liberated within 6 months of falling to extremists, people hold out in place. After about 6 months, they very rapidly abandon hope and do what they have to do to survive. And of course they do not rise up--they are waiting for the US to do it for them. Seems to be working for them as well.

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    Re: 'We will cut off your head in the White House': ISIS threatens to behead Obama...

    Quote Originally Posted by Declan View Post
    It is about 6 months. If an area is liberated within 6 months of falling to extremists, people hold out in place. After about 6 months, they very rapidly abandon hope and do what they have to do to survive. And of course they do not rise up--they are waiting for the US to do it for them. Seems to be working for them as well.
    That's the problem, they aren't willing to take the risk and do it themselves, they want someone else to ride to their rescue. If that's how the world works today, we're doomed. If that's how people thought in WWII, we' be a Nazi planet.
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    Re: 'We will cut off your head in the White House': ISIS threatens to behead Obama...

    Quote Originally Posted by Declan View Post
    Yes. Or more importantly, I pay attention to what those who yammer for a living analyzing based on research and intelligence and other such nonsense say about ISIL. In fact, if you believed what you say, you would call it ISIL instead of ISIS.

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    Re: 'We will cut off your head in the White House': ISIS threatens to behead Obama...

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Let me get this straight-you think that an established "caliphate" would be like a muslim golden age, and that they would kill off the radicals once this was achieved? Is that what you are saying?
    I am telling you that based on interviews with middle eastern analysts, they seem in agreement that moderate muslims do like the idea of a caliphate. They may differ as to the Sunni-populist leadership model or the Shia ordained by Allah as a descendant of Mohammad model, but beyond that, what they are wanting is to return to a pre-Ottoman Empire state of affairs in their societies.

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    Re: 'We will cut off your head in the White House': ISIS threatens to behead Obama...

    Quote Originally Posted by Declan View Post
    I am telling you that based on interviews with middle eastern analysts, they seem in agreement that moderate muslims do like the idea of a caliphate. They may differ as to the Sunni-populist leadership model or the Shia ordained by Allah as a descendant of Mohammad model, but beyond that, what they are wanting is to return to a pre-Ottoman Empire state of affairs in their societies.
    Look at what ISIS is, nevermind what the talking heads say.

    We know them by what they do.

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    Re: 'We will cut off your head in the White House': ISIS threatens to behead Obama...

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Look at what ISIS is, nevermind what the talking heads say.

    We know them by what they do.
    What are they? I have never heard you say anything other than White, heterosexual Christian American Conservatives are good and never wrong and everybody else is evil

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    Re: 'We will cut off your head in the White House': ISIS threatens to behead Obama...

    Quote Originally Posted by Declan View Post
    What are they? I have never heard you say anything other than White, heterosexual Christian American Conservatives are good and never wrong and everybody else is evil
    Thats bogus on every level.

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    Re: 'We will cut off your head in the White House': ISIS threatens to behead Obama...

    Quote Originally Posted by Declan View Post
    Yes. Or more importantly, I pay attention to what those who yammer for a living analyzing based on research and intelligence and other such nonsense say about ISIL. In fact, if you believed what you say, you would call it ISIL instead of ISIS.
    Even BO's own people are calling them ISIS now. To keep calling them ISIL is to acknowledge they are AQIL. Which really doesn't fall in with BO's Narrative that AQ is former shadow of themselves.

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    Re: 'We will cut off your head in the White House': ISIS threatens to behead Obama...

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Even BO's own people are calling them ISIS now. To keep calling them ISIL is to acknowledge they are AQIL.
    I don't care what they call them. Just pick a name already.

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    Re: 'We will cut off your head in the White House': ISIS threatens to behead Obama...

    Quote Originally Posted by Declan View Post
    Sure they do. They say lots of things. It is part of the "terror"
    Have you read Osama bin Laden's 2002 "Open Letter to the United States"? He makes crystal that ultimately, it's convert or die.

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