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    Re: 'We will cut off your head in the White House': ISIS threatens to behead Obama...

    Quote Originally Posted by Declan View Post
    Because they want the west to be hostile toward Muslims who leave so they return to the borg collective. It is all psychological warfare and they are winning.

    Does Russia look like its from the West? Note how they said they would dethrone Putin too.




    Islamic State militants have issued a threat to President Vladimir Putin, vowing to oust him and "liberate" the volatile North Caucasus over his support of the Syrian regime. "This is a message to you, oh Vladimir Putin, these are the jets that you have sent to Bashar, we will send them to you, God willing, remember that," said one fighter in Arabic, according to Russian-language captions provided in the video.

    "And we will liberate Chechnya and the entire Caucasus, God willing," said the militant. "The Islamic State is and will be and it is expanding God willing." "Your throne has already teetered, it is under threat and will fall when we come to you because Allah is truly on our side," said the fighter. "We are already on our way God willing." In the same video, several fighters, some dressed in traditional Muslim robes, threaten Syrian leader Bashar al-Assad from atop the fighter jet. This is Russian equipment," says a voice, speaking in accented Russian, as the camera cuts to a close-up of the plane's cabin.....snip~

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    Re: 'We will cut off your head in the White House': ISIS threatens to behead Obama...

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    To an extent, but its still low intensity and asymmetrical. They will still hide behind civilians and use the same tactics they have elsewhere up to this point. They aren't bound by borders either.
    Hiding behind civilians only endangers those civilians. Harsh of me to say, but at this point, if those civilians don't want to be targets due to terrorists using them as shields, they should DO SOMETHING about those terrorists...being as they are their neighbors, family members, etc.
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    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: 'We will cut off your head in the White House': ISIS threatens to behead Obama...

    Quote Originally Posted by Declan View Post
    They only have 1 goal--to drive the US out of the middle east and the protection of Israel. Doesn't matter to them how many years it takes or how many heads get lopped off. It is that the US has a position that is the issue, not what the position is.
    That is not their only goal. For the most fanatical among them, their goal is to force the entire planet to adopt their particular brand of Islam and wipe secularism and all other religions off the map.
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Re: 'We will cut off your head in the White House': ISIS threatens to behead Obama...

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    Hiding behind civilians only endangers those civilians. Harsh of me to say, but at this point, if those civilians don't want to be targets due to terrorists using them as shields, they should DO SOMETHING about those terrorists...being as they are their neighbors, family members, etc.
    Excellent point. Someone posted a while back that 20% of Muslims are radicalized. I have no idea if that's a valid statistic, but assuming for the moment that it's true, if 80% of Muslims are non-radicalized, what the hell is wrong with those 80% that they allow the minority to make their religion look bad?
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Re: 'We will cut off your head in the White House': ISIS threatens to behead Obama...

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Excellent point. Someone posted a while back that 20% of Muslims are radicalized. I have no idea if that's a valid statistic, but assuming for the moment that it's true, if 80% of Muslims are non-radicalized, what the hell is wrong with those 80% that they allow the minority to make their religion look bad?
    The number I have seen is usually closer to 10-15%, but even within that number, most are not particularly anti-US except to the extent that we defend Israel. However, you have a problem you cannot control---moderate Muslims like the idea of a caliphate. It is not what people seem to think it is. The first caliphate was like the period of enlightenment for Muslims--peace, prosperity, invention, etc.--the Good Old Days if you will. Jihadists would fall quickly by the wayside as the first rule of revolution is to kill the revolutionaries.

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    Re: 'We will cut off your head in the White House': ISIS threatens to behead Obama...

    Quote Originally Posted by Declan View Post
    Sure they do. They say lots of things. It is part of the "terror"
    Ah so you as an American "progressive" know what ISIS REALLY wants. Even despite what they say?

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    Re: 'We will cut off your head in the White House': ISIS threatens to behead Obama...

    Quote Originally Posted by Declan View Post
    The number I have seen is usually closer to 10-15%, but even within that number, most are not particularly anti-US except to the extent that we defend Israel. However, you have a problem you cannot control---moderate Muslims like the idea of a caliphate. It is not what people seem to think it is. The first caliphate was like the period of enlightenment for Muslims--peace, prosperity, invention, etc.--the Good Old Days if you will. Jihadists would fall quickly by the wayside as the first rule of revolution is to kill the revolutionaries.
    Let me get this straight-you think that an established "caliphate" would be like a muslim golden age, and that they would kill off the radicals once this was achieved? Is that what you are saying?

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    Re: 'We will cut off your head in the White House': ISIS threatens to behead Obama...

    Quote Originally Posted by Declan View Post
    The number I have seen is usually closer to 10-15%, but even within that number, most are not particularly anti-US except to the extent that we defend Israel. However, you have a problem you cannot control---moderate Muslims like the idea of a caliphate. It is not what people seem to think it is. The first caliphate was like the period of enlightenment for Muslims--peace, prosperity, invention, etc.--the Good Old Days if you will. Jihadists would fall quickly by the wayside as the first rule of revolution is to kill the revolutionaries.
    Yet they seem disinterested in killing the revolutionaries, even when the revolutionaries are at their gates, shooting at them, chopping their heads off and raping their women. Most revolutionaries don't get killed by the people, that's the problem. The people just learn how to live under the revolutionaries and eventually, be it Stockholm Syndrome or something else, sympathize with their cause.
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Re: 'We will cut off your head in the White House': ISIS threatens to behead Obama...

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Ah so you as an American "progressive" know what ISIS REALLY wants. Even despite what they say?
    Yes. Or more importantly, I pay attention to what those who yammer for a living analyzing based on research and intelligence and other such nonsense say about ISIL. In fact, if you believed what you say, you would call it ISIL instead of ISIS.

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    Re: 'We will cut off your head in the White House': ISIS threatens to behead Obama...

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Obama at times has very much supported islamic terrorists. And they have hated him the entire time. So your inference is off.
    Actually, I think your misplaced hatred for Obama and the Democrats is what is off.

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