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    Re: Michelle Obama forgoes a headscarf and sparks a backlash in Saudi Arabia

    Good on her. I think the appropriate response from her should be "its cute that you think I should do that."

    When we were there, women were not required to wear head scarves. The only accommodation our military women made was that they were allowed to wear their hats indoors if they chose to. This had an impact in bartering and haggling over purchase prices. Not much else. Even those that chose to wear a head scarf where seen with disrespect. I understan for a time later that the military had all the women covering their heads. Dont know if that is still the practice.

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    Re: Michelle Obama forgoes a headscarf and sparks a backlash in Saudi Arabia

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Hmmm, so what you're saying is that Michelle Obama going against the social norms established by the Saudi royal family... will be a positive for our relationship with the Saudi royal family? Right?
    ....are you being deliberately obtuse or do you really lack the reading comprehension to understand the phrase actions that insult or damage relations with our allies can have positive purpose?

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    Re: Michelle Obama forgoes a headscarf and sparks a backlash in Saudi Arabia

    SO...some cool things in that video actually. 1-They were just getting off the plane. 2-The woman in black also was uncovered. 3-During the playing of the US national anthem our flag was given equal status on the flagpole and their military personnel rendered proper respect and protocol.

    Much ado about nothing.

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    Re: Michelle Obama forgoes a headscarf and sparks a backlash in Saudi Arabia

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    ....are you being deliberately obtuse or do you really lack the reading comprehension to understand the phrase actions that insult or damage relations with our allies can have positive purpose?
    Too many abstracts in your sentence. I asked you to clarify whether that "positive purpose" has anything to do with our actual relationship with the Saudis.
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    Re: Michelle Obama forgoes a headscarf and sparks a backlash in Saudi Arabia

    Quote Originally Posted by Infinite Chaos View Post
    Some women are not to be messed with.. What I like about this is how black African heritage peoples are seen in Arab countries and this one threw local custom back in their face.

    reminded me of this story -



    Too bad Michelle O wasn't given the opportunity to drive the motorcade but I'm certainly glad she didn't stand the prerequisite 10 feet behind her man
    I guess in some quarters "paying respects" involves insulting those you are paying respect to. What's the point?

    Perhaps better not to go at all.
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    Re: Michelle Obama forgoes a headscarf and sparks a backlash in Saudi Arabia

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Too many abstracts in your sentence. I asked you to clarify whether that "positive purpose" has anything to do with our actual relationship with the Saudis.
    Nope. It simply is a passive refusal to actively suborn the First Family to the point that they reinforce the subjugation of women in Saudi Arabia.


    Remember when conservatives got a bit ticked because it looked like Obama bowed to the Saudi king? This is the opposite of that.

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    Re: Michelle Obama forgoes a headscarf and sparks a backlash in Saudi Arabia

    I agree with generally following the customs of the country you visit...but as one poster said...the headscarf is about subjugation, not some cultural dress.
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    Re: Michelle Obama forgoes a headscarf and sparks a backlash in Saudi Arabia

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Nope. It simply is a passive refusal to actively suborn the First Family to the point that they reinforce the subjugation of women in Saudi Arabia.
    Which... is ... positive or negative for our relationship with them?

    Remember when conservatives got a bit ticked because it looked like Obama bowed to the Saudi king? This is the opposite of that.
    So abiding by the customs of our allies is bad... not abiding by their customs is good for our relationship with them?
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    Re: Michelle Obama forgoes a headscarf and sparks a backlash in Saudi Arabia

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I guess in some quarters "paying respects" involves insulting those you are paying respect to. What's the point?

    Perhaps better not to go at all.
    So if a Saudi Arabian queen came to the US for a funeral she should take off her head-covering to please us or not come at all? How horribly insulting that would be to the American people if she came anyway!

    I think you're purposely being obnoxious.
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    Re: Michelle Obama forgoes a headscarf and sparks a backlash in Saudi Arabia

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Which... is ... positive or negative for our relationship with them?



    So abiding by the customs of our allies is bad... not abiding by their customs is good for our relationship with them?
    The only way this can really be seen as a negative is if the Saudis get hold of the pictures of her choosing to wear the head scarves in India and not SA. But even then...come on...she is a woman. She isnt really relevant to the important discussions of men.

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