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    Re: Michelle Obama forgoes a headscarf and sparks a backlash in Saudi Arabia

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Firstly, for whatever reason, I've never seen one of the Saudi Arabian queens even though King Abdullah had about a dozen. I'm pretty sure the Saudi royal queens don't travel.

    That said, is there anything particularly offensive about a head scarf? I don't believe it was suggested the First Lady wear a burka or some other full body tarp.

    The point I was making, and it's a pretty simple one to understand, if you're not entirely disingenuous in "paying your respects" and not solely intent on using the death of a foreign head of state to make a political statement, why go if you actually have so little respect for the hosts?

    And to be clear, showing deference to your hosts is not obnoxious - the opposite is.
    You never actually answered the question I asked. Were they to visit the US, would we all be super offended that she didn't take off her head-covering and pretend to look just like us?

    I'm not sure what kind of overly emotional world you live in, but someone not dressing like you is not an insult. In the US we don't treat our women like dogs or force them to wear attire they don't want to. Freedom - not for everyone.
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    Re: Michelle Obama forgoes a headscarf and sparks a backlash in Saudi Arabia

    Isn't "paying respect," going against Saudi culture anyways? Legitimate question, can't remember exactly what the rules were on all that in their religious belief. Just remember something about not mourning or maybe was not mourning for long? Dunno.

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    Re: Michelle Obama forgoes a headscarf and sparks a backlash in Saudi Arabia

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    You never actually answered the question I asked. Were they to visit the US, would we all be super offended that she didn't take off her head-covering and pretend to look just like us?

    I'm not sure what kind of overly emotional world you live in, but someone not dressing like you is not an insult. In the US we don't treat our women like dogs or force them to wear attire they don't want to. Freedom - not for everyone.
    Sorry to confuse you but I'm Canadian, not a Saudi. My world is irrelevant. The OP is discussing "paying respects" in Saudi Arabia. I have no idea if the Saudi royal family felt offended by the First Lady's attire or if the people of Saudi Arabia were offended. My point was, as you and others seem to be promoting, if your intent is to offend or to make a political statement, it would be wiser just to stay home. There are other times and better circumstances under which to make your point.

    As for your analogy, it isn't one. I'm not aware of any or many in America who are offended by women's attire. If they are, they are free to express that concern in appropriate ways and forums. Doing so while "paying respects" seems more like disrespect to me, but then I've never been one to purposely offend for no reason. If I didn't smoke and I was invited to a person's home where smokers lived, I wouldn't go wearing an anti-smoking t-shirt. I'd either accept the invitation graciously and excuse myself politely if need be, or I'd decline the invitation. You see, it's not for me to tell other people how to live. I have no objection to the First Lady wearing what she likes but if, as seems apparent, she's had no problem with the headscarf in other situations, her not wearing one here seems designed to offend or to make a political statement, both of which are inappropriate under the circumstances.
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    Re: Michelle Obama forgoes a headscarf and sparks a backlash in Saudi Arabia

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    Yes, it will blow over. Paying respect is great, but not if it involves kissing asses. I'm not a fan of MO, but in this case I certainly am. Good for her.
    Agreed, and it is also OK for those who shook hands with BO to ignore MO. Everybody wins.

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    Re: Michelle Obama forgoes a headscarf and sparks a backlash in Saudi Arabia

    Quote Originally Posted by AliHajiSheik View Post
    Agreed, and it is also OK for those who shook hands with BO to ignore MO. Everybody wins.
    It's their way. Reasonable people can accept the customs of others without endorsing them.

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    Re: Michelle Obama forgoes a headscarf and sparks a backlash in Saudi Arabia

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    Re: Michelle Obama forgoes a headscarf and sparks a backlash in Saudi Arabia

    Quote Originally Posted by Infinite Chaos View Post
    Some women are not to be messed with.. What I like about this is how black African heritage peoples are seen in Arab countries and this one threw local custom back in their face.

    reminded me of this story -



    Too bad Michelle O wasn't given the opportunity to drive the motorcade but I'm certainly glad she didn't stand the prerequisite 10 feet behind her man
    Out of curiosity, were you proud of "black African heritage peoples" back in 2007 during the meeting where this pic was taken?



    Good grief. I'd swear that some of you people never saw a black person before Obama came along.

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    Re: Michelle Obama forgoes a headscarf and sparks a backlash in Saudi Arabia

    Way to go FLOTUS,the Obama's broke a whole lots of Americans hearts.The Obama are NOT Arab's or Muslim's! Now those that cry POTUS is a Muslim,this is for the stupid people.


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    Re: Michelle Obama forgoes a headscarf and sparks a backlash in Saudi Arabia

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    Out of curiosity, were you proud of "black African heritage peoples" back in 2007 during the meeting where this pic was taken?



    Good grief. I'd swear that some of you people never saw a black person before Obama came along.
    You know man, I really like your posts! They are consistently good!!!!

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    Re: Michelle Obama forgoes a headscarf and sparks a backlash in Saudi Arabia

    I love that outfit on her. Those blues and blacks are flattering.
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